New definition of "scuff"

[bosshoss]

I've been filling in the gaps in my collection with quite a few lesser grade, reasonably priced 45s of late, some sourced from eBay. This one was described as vg+ with "some hairlines/scuffs". There is a soundfile attached which starts a few seconds into the song, unusually. I thought nothing of that, at the time. It wasn't a very expensive 45.

When the record arrived, it was obvious why the seller did not include the first few seconds of the track in the soundfile. It was because of the "scuff" or perhaps the "hairline"....

I tried to return the record, but the guy does not accept returns, and eBay blocked my message, giving the excuse that the seller did not accept returns and my message could therefore not be delivered. First time I knew about that policy.

So I was forced to leave negative feedback, for the first time in over a decade. The 45 was cheap, but it still cost over $50 after postage and tax.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1254745521...=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

[Michael W]

Start a case for item not as described? You might get a refund which will teach him a lesson.

 

[Heitkotter77]

If you initiated your payment through PayPal, I presume you can initiate a dispute as Michael W describes. They aren't held to any policy created by a seller that is contrary to theirs. Theirs will override.

By the way, is that what's meant by a receding hairline?

 

[Dave Baldwin]

I stopped buying from sellers who don't stand behind their grading by offering returns long ago.
"No returns accepted" = RED FLAG

 

[Heitkotter77]

I stopped buying from sellers who don't stand behind their grading by offering returns long ago.
"No returns accepted" = RED FLAG

Hell, even the Count accepts returns.

 

[MopTopMike]

The Count may take the record as a return but doubtful you'll get a refund of any amount....

 

[Heitkotter77]

The Count may take the record as a return but doubtful you'll get a refund of any amount....

PayPal may say otherwise.

Or you can just bounce some pennies off his head.

 

[nadorozny2001]

i had a seller stop a sale cause my account was from canada . i told him i'd send him money and still would'nt do it. i'm leaving negative feedback. dammit i wanted that record !!

 

[Dave Baldwin]

i had a seller stop a sale cause my account was from canada . i told him i'd send him money and still would'nt do it. i'm leaving negative feedback. dammit i wanted that record !!

Sounds discriminatory to me. I'd offer you a discount if you told me you didn't vote for Trudeau (lol).

 

[Frantic]

Sounds discriminatory to me. I'd offer you a discount if you told me you didn't vote for Trudeau (lol).

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i second that!!!

 

[bosshoss]

I stopped buying from sellers who don't stand behind their grading by offering returns long ago.
"No returns accepted" = RED FLAG

Yes I know Dave. But I still take the chance sometimes. Because when something comes up on eBay that I need, there are lots of hurdles these days.
First, not many of my wants come up for sale in the first place. Then there's "May not ship to Australia" or "Does not ship to Australia", or "shipping = $56.00 to Australia" for one $6 record. Then there's the condition, and the price of the 45 to consider. If I get past all those hurdles, "seller does not accept returns" seems like the final straw.

I guess is used to be worse...when guys* wanted me to send $5,000 cash wrapped in an uninsured package declared as "gift". At my risk and before receiving the records of course.

* no forum members ever demanded this, and I never actually agreed to it. But one guy simply couldn't understand why I wouldn't do it, even after I explained.

 

[TJ Coro]

As I understand it, eBay sellers should accept returns if specific conditions exist. Here’s what I found in eBay’s seller help section:

If the buyer is asking to return the item because it's damaged, faulty, or didn't match your listing description, then you need to accept the return. If they've opened the return for another reason, for instance if they ordered the wrong item or changed their mind, then you aren't required to accept the return – however, where possible we always suggest providing a great customer experience.

 

[bosshoss]

As I understand it, eBay sellers should accept returns if specific conditions exist. Here’s what I found in eBay’s seller help section:

If the buyer is asking to return the item because it's damaged, faulty, or didn't match your listing description, then you need to accept the return. If they've opened the return for another reason, for instance if they ordered the wrong item or changed their mind, then you aren't required to accept the return – however, where possible we always suggest providing a great customer experience.

Thank you TJ - Ebay could help achieve a "great customer experience" by not blocking my request for a refund.