Spiders Mascot reissue

[dan nowicki]

Folks interested in 45 reissues may have noticed there's a new Spiders repro available on eBay (and elsewhere). It's not a bootleg, but a legitimate release from the recently reactivated Mascot label. The source is the master tapes via DAT. I heard it several months ago and the punch of the original SJW pressing is sadly missing, but otherwise it's a nice item. The deadwax clearly identifies it as a 2011 reissue, although I doubt any waxhound would ever mistake it for an original.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-SPIDERS...4943746?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item336ef5f082

 

[legbarecords]

My local record store stocked this and a couple days ago I checked it out on the headphones. It really is lacking in the "punch" department so I passed. Seems so strange that someone would have access to the master tape and then master from a DAT.

 

[Frantic]

My local record store stocked this and a couple days ago I checked it out on the headphones. It really is lacking in the "punch" department so I passed. Seems so strange that someone would have access to the master tape and then master from a DAT.

Lots of master tape owners won't give up or send in the mail their master tapes, (for fear of loss) so they transfer them to dat and then send that in the mail. That's probably what happened. I've had this happen quite a few times.

 

[legbarecords]

Yeah, I understand that but they still have to take it somewhere to get it transferred. Why not just take it to a mastering lab and be done with it. If the end result is a 45 that doesn't sound like a 45 it all just seems a bit self defeating. I'm sure whoever is behind it is well meaning and clearly put some effort into making it happen, just to bad the result is a collectible instead of... an awesome sounding record.

 

[dan nowicki]

Lots of master tape owners won't give up or send in the mail their master tapes, (for fear of loss) so they transfer them to dat and then send that in the mail. That's probably what happened. I've had this happen quite a few times.

The story is a little more complicated than that. All the Mascot masters were destroyed in the 1970s or 1980s - with the fortunate exception of The Spiders', which label owner Jack Curtis had plucked from the rest of the stash because of all the interest in Alice Cooper. Those Spiders masters were transferred to DAT maybe 20 years ago or so and Curtis subsequently sold the actual masters to a private Alice Cooper collector, I believe in Canada (I'm going by memory here), who has kept them under lock and key since then. So unfortunately they didn't really have access to the masters.

 

[legbarecords]

Well there you go. That clears that up. Whoever did this slouched in no way. To bad about the tapes though.

 

[Dave Baldwin]

It actually sounds pretty good to me. How many of you have seen/heard
an original copy?

 

[buckeyebeat]

It actually sounds pretty good to me. How many of you have seen/heard
an original copy?

I've never seen one. I believe it's really rare, in the under 10 known copy category, and considering the collectability of this compared to other similarly rare records, and the other Spiders and Nazz 45s, that's not many. Anyone else know more?

 

[dan nowicki]

It actually sounds pretty good to me.

The source for the new Mascot reissue is the same as was used for "The Life and Crimes of Alice Cooper" CD box set and the previous Sundazed EP.

 

[dan nowicki]

I've never seen one. I believe it's really rare, in the under 10 known copy category, and considering the collectability of this compared to other similarly rare records, and the other Spiders and Nazz 45s, that's not many. Anyone else know more?

I know of at least a couple/few in Arizona collections that may or may not be on the radar of this list. Jack Curtis remembers the floor of the V.I.P. Club in Phoenix being covered with shards of broken Mascot records after a Spiders show!

 

[mr. splendid]

I saw a vg- copy at Tracks In Wax in PHX about 6-7 years ago , unfortunately they wanted to put it on ebay . Although I can't recall seeing it listed there , it was gone when I checked a year later .