33 OR 45 ADAPTER/LOCK DOWN CLAMP

[Frantic]

Can any of you guys recommend a lock down clamp that works for a 45 or lp? I've got a few 45s & lps that have slight warps that would probably play with one. If you can put up a link to a few that would be great. I see some on the net that work for lps but not 45s also.

 

[reyes]

Ok, I have a few warped too, so is this what the clamps are for?

 

[reyes]

I've always seen them but don't really know their exact purpose....

 

[Frantic]

I've always seen them but don't really know their exact purpose....

If they have slight storage warps and they still play, I've been told that the clamp will lessen the warp and it will play better. Last night I experimented for a few hours on fixing a warped styrene 45. It had a nice rolling warped to start with and if I tracked it at 2.5 grams both sides played fine. On my 10th try in the oven I corrected the warp and it was perfectly flat. Funny story is, I kept bumping up the temp and the time in the oven, on the last time I bumped the oven up to just over 200 degrees and 25 minutes, about 35-40 minutes later my roomate knocks on my door and tells me the oven timer is beeping. I go running in the kitchen thinking that i've ruined a rare record but much to my surprise my F up saved the record and I no longer have to throw out storage warped styrene records. Still have to work on those vinyl records though.

 

[Rich Strauss]

I use this:

http://www.amazon.com/Clearaudio-Clever-Clamp/dp/B003JTDMXG

It works for slight warps. It is very light so it doesn't put a strain on your turntable's motor. My turntable is a Rega P5. Rega discourages the use of clamps. This is so light that it doesn't cause a problem. It also helps to dampen resonances by providing a tighter coupling of the record to the turntable.

To use it with 45s, first center the 45 with your 45 adapter. Then remove the adapter & apply the clamp.

-- Rich

 

[Frantic]

I use this:

http://www.amazon.com/Clearaudio-Clever-Clamp/dp/B003JTDMXG

It works for slight warps. It is very light so it doesn't put a strain on your turntable's motor. My turntable is a Rega P5. Rega discourages the use of clamps. This is so light that it doesn't cause a problem. It also helps to dampen resonances by providing a tighter coupling of the record to the turntable.

To use it with 45s, first center the 45 with your 45 adapter. Then remove the adapter & apply the clamp.

-- Rich

I saw that one, but I'm wondering if there is one that has a built in 45 adapter you don't have to remove to put on the clamp?

 

[reyes]

Wow!! Frantic, in the oven???!! It sounds risky hahaha, how do you flatten it up? It doesnt affect the grooves? So styrene works better than vinyl? Sorry so many questions.

There should be a thread solely on doctoring warps and scratches that affect playing.! I think I read before somebody that was able to fix skips and repetitions.

 

[Frantic]

Wow!! Frantic, in the oven???!! It sounds risky hahaha, how do you flatten it up? It doesnt affect the grooves? So styrene works better than vinyl? Sorry so many questions.

There should be a thread solely on doctoring warps and scratches that affect playing.! I think I read before somebody that was able to fix skips and repetitions.

I put the 45 between 2 pieces of 1/4" tempered glass and put them on a cookie sheet. Center rack. Styrene is suppossed to be really hard to fix but it sure worked for me without messing up the grooves. I have a feeling if I would have left it in too long at that temp for a vinyl record it would have been all over but the crying.

 

[Andreas]

Joey, that story scared the shit out of me! Must've been quite a sight, with the oven mittens, a little apron and all

 

[mansson66]

Off topic but still bout fixing records... can you believe this?!?

 

[ShyC]

Interesting... gonna try this!

I recently saw that Vectors "Paisley Haze" 45 with a crazy warp on eBay. Wondered if any technique could flatten a warp like that? Any experiences?

http://tinyurl.com/7pfcno2

 

[eleelandc]

I went with the 3/8" 13" x 13" glass - I have had limited "success" (failures more than not) but would suggest that if you wanna try it, you make some spacers to offset the thickness of the labels on each side... I used an old record cover and cut a circle slightly larger than a label in the middle of it.... preheat the oven to a low temp... like 150 or something..... and when you put the sandwich in (glass-spacer-record-spacer-glass), turn off the heat and let it sit in the oven about 4 hours and then take it out and put the sandwich someplace flat to sit overnight.... I brought my Vance Charles and the sonics 45 from an unplayable 25 cent copy to a barely playable with 5 grams 50 cent copy.... worth the $70 I paid for the glass? meh.... I guess it is good to have a hobby!
point being, long odds for the crazy warp being brought back from the land of the unplayable wobbly, but if you only have 25 cents into the record and are ready to try a project... could be fun...

 

[reyes]

Off topic but still bout fixing records... can you believe this?!?

It worked, no more noise and crackle.

 

[mansson66]

I actually feel like trying this out with some old crap 45... looks pretty bizarre though and I don't trust it

 

[Mr.Segment]

I've read about this before, tempting to give it a try. But I imagine using a VPI would work better. And it doesn't take overnight, only a minute. Maybe if you're stuck out in Nowheresville, don't own a VPI nor have any shops nearby that offers cleaning, yeah. Otherwise I'd be hesitant to expose my needle to this without an extra VPI'ing after the glue treatment.

 

[ShyC]

I read some forums about it, they all say: Yes, it works! But you're right, Mr. Segment, unless one is stuck in Nowheresville without access to VPI this method is reserved for weirdos with no sense in life. Which is why I'm going to give it a try!

 

[nu_sound]

I have actually used this method before and while it does work, it should only really be used on trashed records with little value. Sometimes not all the glue comes off neatly, and I am worried about it getting trapped in the grooves and sticking to my needle. There are easier ways, but it's pretty effective for really
scratchy records.

 

[mr. splendid]

I read some forums about it, they all say: Yes, it works! But you're right, Mr. Segment, unless one is stuck in Nowheresville without access to VPI this method is reserved for weirdos with no sense in life. Which is why I'm going to give it a try!

Actually you should use this stuff instead http://www.discofilm.eu/2.html ( sorry no english translation for that site ) . It works very well and is safe . Good to use on really crusty 45's before you VPI them .

 

[MopTopMike]

That film stuff sucks. I've bought records from a German collector who sold off his 45s. Every one had trace remnants of this stuff in the runout groove near the labels - it won't come off, even with a VPI treatment.
Put it this way - anything you apply that isn't vacuumed off as a liquid WILL bind / bond to the groove, whether you can see it or not.

 

[mr. splendid]

That film stuff sucks. I've bought records from a German collector who sold off his 45s. Every one had trace remnants of this stuff in the runout groove near the labels - it won't come off, even with a VPI treatment.
Put it this way - anything you apply that isn't vacuumed off as a liquid WILL bind / bond to the groove, whether you can see it or not.

As I mentioned I only use it on real tough cases , but up till now it worked okay for me . The remnants in the runout groove are normal as you can't apply the stuff as thickly there or you might damage the label . You can lift off these remnants easily with a bit of sticky tape .