American Garage Rock In The 60s

"due to be published in late 2012" :biglaugh:
well for what it's worth the people pledging $ 200+ got "an exclusive digital compilation containing 300 vintage garage-rock singles " . I think I found a way to finance that Four More 45....
 
I'm trying to contact S.Schindler regarding the status of the book. Will let you know when I know more.
 
Typical lame-ass, lazy author begging for people to fund his project.
If you care to read his proposal, he notes that if sufficient funding comes thru, he can "figure out" whether to take his book to a mainstream publisher(!) or do it himself.
What was the 5 grand used for? I'm sure he didn't declare it as income on his taxes:lol:
Kickstarter may seem like a good idea, but it is really a front for people who have no business (sense, acumen, knowledge).
 
"I believe that it is of vital importance that this story be told properly, while its original participants are still around to tell it."

Um... mission already accomplished by Teenbeat Mayhem, Garage Hangover website, 30+ issues of Ugly Things, Misty Lane, and many other excellent websites and zines more deserving of backing...

I've gotten a few very neat limited edition releases of rare old music tracks/demos through crowdfunding, but unless a band member or relation is involved save your money. Could care less about my name being on stuff but whatever cleans your grooves eh?
 
Had to look... all I could find was; author of Rolling Stone's Alt-Rock-A-Rama... A Fistful of Rock & Roll: Real Rock Art for Real Rock Bands...Icons of Rock: An Encyclopedia of the Legends Who Changed Music Forever, Volumes 1 & 2... in other words pretty generic, and probably 'researched' from having a lot of magazines and other books. A single Alec Palao CD booklet would probably carry more 'vital importance' weight. But keep trying? :bucks!:
 
I wonder the percentage of Kickstarter projects that reach completion. Seems like I've seen a lot of documentary trailers and never hear about the finished documentary.

I still wouldn't knock Kickstarter. It's a great way to get a project going without the extortion of fees and high interest that banks charge for loans.
 
whatever happened to that Montana deal? the one where they refused to give us any track listing:oops:
 
no, I think they're honest and will produce something worthy.

Trust is something, even on a business loan.
Never said they weren't honest. Just weird that they refused to give us a track listing. Probably because it's loaded with covers.
 
Never said they weren't honest. Just weird that they refused to give us a track listing. Probably because it's loaded with covers.
Probably because they're still working on it! And yeah, it may be covers heavy but I still wanna hear it...Bluto's Montana vacation!
 
Probably because they're still working on it! And yeah, it may be covers heavy but I still wanna hear it...Bluto's Montana vacation!
They said they had most of the tracks picked out and I asked them 5 times to give us a tracking listing to no avail. Sounds like they have something to hide. I hate kickstarters but if you're gonna go that route at least let people know what they are going to get.
 
I got a reply from S.Schindler, here it is:

" i'm still hammering away at my book—I had initially hoped to turn it around in a year or so, but, for better or worse, it's proven to be a longer-term project than that. I think it will be really good once it's done, but I've still got piles and piles of research and interviews that need to be turned into text. At this point I'm hoping to have it out by early-mid 2015, fingers crossed. "
 
Maybe I know too much or something that some of these things trigger warning bells? With this one I'm thinking a professional is going to go to a publisher with an outline and chapter list etc. and state their expertise/credentials for doing the book (or whoever they have contributing with them). Plus the market is actually really good right now for music biography and non-fiction. I can't imagine wanting to futz around with this fund-raising way in advance approach... unless you're pretty darn sure an established publisher wouldn't touch it. On the other paw, if he is conducting his own interviews maybe something worthwhile might result, but I wonder if he has much of an idea of what is already out there and documented going by the hoped to turn it around in a year comment and the titles of his past books. I guess it's not my job to pee on anyone's barbecue but the wise person has some knowledge of what they don't know and with the Montana people and this author I feel a bit wiser them. I've been (fairly casually) asked to write about music for two different magazines but begged off feeling I'd be well out of my depth and respecting the real work involved in doing so properly. Well, unless someone maybe wants an article on Los Machucambos where I might not have any better English writers to suggest in my place. :%:

Legitimately crowdfunding is either for something very specialized with a small audience expectation, or for someone inexperienced but who definitely has the goods and legal authority to the goods (like a relative or actual band member). There are print-on-demand publishers today that seem to put out a nice publication, I've gotten excellent recently updated books on The Yardbirds and The Ventures from authors who have one copy made upon payment, part of which payment goes directly to the manufacturer/mailer. That's a money-up-front system that makes sense to me and doesn't involve promises or levels of customer. Not a here's what I think I can do/offer but only if you believe in me by paying me before I do the work.
 
I'm down with Joey D on this one.
Kickstarter is just another way for the vast majority of people to fund their own laziness and refusal to spend their own money on a project. Or, just to scam people

There are few legitimate circumstances where Kickstarter is a valid and reasonable option to generate working capital. However, just perusing that website, all I see are projects that have no point whatsoever, except for goading gullible benefactors into forking over undeserved dollars. I recall one instance where a couple of guys wanted pledges (what a PC term) so that they could travel the country and film / document / interview record collectors. Hmm....what about putting up your OWN money, or getting a loan from someone (family, friend, if not a bank?) And please, don't give that well worn, lame excuse of "banks are not lending" - maybe not to you, but you can use your credit card then. Got no credit? Got no money? Howzabout some self reliance then? Sell some of your possessions. Get rid of your i-phone, your cable TV. Don't go out drinking 4 nights a week. Stay out of the tattoo parlor and away from the bi-weekly visit to your hairdresser.

Go without, and put that money towards your project, your goal, your dream....What a concept. But not so in 2014, because that is how the world revolves. Zero self-reliance and accountability.

Kickstarter should have a strict set of rules which state that:
Anyone who collects money for a posted project must
1 - declare all money received (not classify them as "donations") as income which must be reported annually for tax purposes (like paypal does now)
2 - A Kickstarter recipient must fully refund all monies to pledgers if stated project as published on their website is not completed / published / etc as stated by the time / date established by the person who is looking for funds. If a project is gonna take 5 years, say so. Demand that a project must have an end date for completion.
 
I got a reply from S.Schindler, here it is:

" i'm still hammering away at my book—I had initially hoped to turn it around in a year or so, but, for better or worse, it's proven to be a longer-term project than that. I think it will be really good once it's done, but I've still got piles and piles of research and interviews that need to be turned into text. At this point I'm hoping to have it out by early-mid 2015, fingers crossed. "

I'd like to see his book come to completion at some point.
I just have a problem with using Kickstarter to get it done. He's obviously written other books without asking for pledges. That alone tells me something.
 
I'm a paying supporter of PBS. I get a lot of value from them, and have over the years, and people have called me soft for supporting it. But I agree that kickstarter and variations are a magnet for the lazy and half-baked. 99 times out of 100 you have to ask, if this is serious and worth supporting why are they approaching it like a charity or almost a pyramid scheme come-on? It may have a lot of appeal for people into limited editions but half of everything these days seems to be a limited edition collectable, you'd think that would have gotten worn out ages ago.

"all funds raised will go towards making this book as special and authoritative as possible" What does that needed $5000 buy... plane tickets or rights to rare privately held photos or something? Maybe I'm the only person here to have never heard of him before, but still, you'd think there'd be some credentials as to why he is the one to write this definitive tome? Mind you, I don't get Rolling Stone, and pick up Mojo or Uncut only very sporadically... down to almost never these days. Well, maybe it will have lots of vintage pics... but I'm kind of expecting a Rhino's Psychedelic Trip book (which looked cool but did it ever have some astonishing errors).

Bah, you'll never invent a new kind of popular music Glen Miller... "Well, uh, well, uh, I'll... I'll show you! Yeah..."
 
"Garage Rock" is what the media and little kids call Garage Punk. Its an annoying term.
That's true. Unfortunately I find myself using the term as well, just to make people understand quicker and avoid even more annoying discussions. Not good. I should just stick to Garage Punk and don't give a shit about what people understand.