At The Club

Frantic said:
I never bought anything from Bob. I got that record from Bill Rase (FOR FREE) who owned the studio where it was recorded. Bob had no copies, so stop trying to stir up shit you have no knowledge of...got it!!! I contacted Bob years after I discovered that 45. It took me almost 10 years to find him. Seems like you get pissed everytime someone locates a band before you do.
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I have knowledge because I bought the record which has the sleeve autographed to you by Bob.

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P.S. I never tried looking for the band, so in the ommortal words of Archie bunker, "Wrong again, Maude!"
 
He signed my copy! You never had a band guy sign anything of yours? He also let me dub (from master tape) a complete unreleased lp that turned out to be a little to bluesy for release.
 
Frantic said:
He signed my copy! You never had a band guy sign anything of yours? He also let me dub (from master tape) a complete unreleased lp that turned out to be a little to bluesy for release.
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And you sold it. Nice sentimentality.

I've gotten free records from band members (signed or otherwise), and if I didn't care to keep them, I gave them away to firends who would appreciate them. That's called character, but I think that's a foreign concept to you.
 
Heitkotter77 said:
And you sold it. Nice sentimentality.

I've gotten free records from band members (signed or otherwise), and if I didn't care to keep them, I gave them away to firends who would appreciate them. That's called character, but I think that's a foreign concept to you.
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I have other stuff (photos) signed by him, I thought it would be cool for the buyer (you) to have the autograph. WTH???
 
Wrong again, Maude.

Autographed to me would mean something. It makes the record more personal by creating a connection between the artist and me.
Autographed to someone else doesn't have much meaning except writing on sleeve (in this case, not much of a matter since it's a white sleeve).
An autograph to you from a non-famous person doesn't have any sentimental value to me. I have no connection to it.
 
Heitkotter77 said:
Wrong again, Maude.

Autographed to me would mean something. It makes the record more personal by creating a connection between the artist and me.
Autographed to someone else doesn't have much meaning except writing on sleeve (in this case, not much of a matter since it's a white sleeve).
An autograph to you from a non-famous person doesn't have any sentimental value to me. I have no connection to it.
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You actually think I would drive 75 miles to get Bob to autograph that 45 for you after I sold it to you on Ebay. I owned that record for at least 5 years before I sold it, Bob autographed it 5 months to a year before I sold it. Why are you making this crap up. I didn't need it anymore and I sold it with the autograph, big deal it was made out to me. I think you better sell it now. You bought it from a greedy seller (me) who got it for free from a studio owner who made a bunch of money when Alec released the SOUND OF YOUNG SACRAMENTO with my help. I never made a penny from that release, it was a labor of love. I however did get a total of 2 free records for all my effort.
 
What am I making up? You're the one taking everything I say and twisting it around because you don't have a clue as to the point I'm making and you're just looking for a fight to get the attention you so seem to crave here.
I've explained the previous ones, and you chose to ignore what I say and make more stupid presumptions and accusations. And again, you totally missed the point of my last one , so you're on your own trying to figure out what my previous post meant. You never will because you're so narrow minded in your way of thinking that you'll never realize you really haven't a clue as to what others are talking about.
Live with your delusions. The truth is pretty plain to everyone but you.

Anyway, you're getting tiring, so go find someone else to play with. I've heard enough out of you, Todd Pettengill.
 
This is also my last post, all I did was respond to your post, I thought it was off and responded to it. You then tried your hardest to make stuff up concerning my private dealings that had zero to do with your original post and my original response. Very petty. :flush:
 
Frantic said:
So you heard Figler paid $50-$100 and sold them for $300. First off you don't know for sure he paid that amount, but if he did, what would be dishonest about selling them for $300. I know a lot of bigtime collectors/sellers who have made a lot more than that on records, including me. ;)
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Did we read the same story? I read a story about Joe Docko & how a previous interaction of his influenced his attitude towards Heitkotter77. It seemed obvious to me that whatever Vic Figlar did left a bad taste in Joe Docko's mouth, and this was a major point of the story.

I did not read a story that stated nobody should be allowed to sell records for a profit. Did I miss the point, or am I just not paranoid enough to make this story all about me?
 
down-n-out said:
Did we read the same story? I read a story about Joe Docko & how a previous interaction of his influenced his attitude towards Heitkotter77. It seemed obvious to me that whatever Vic Figlar did left a bad taste in Joe Docko's mouth, and this was a major point of the story.

I did not read a story that stated nobody should be allowed to sell records for a profit. Did I miss the point, or am I just not paranoid enough to make this story all about me?
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Buying a record for $50-$100 and then later selling it for $300 is not greedy. Lots of band guys give away or sell their records cheap only to find out later that the record is going for a lot of money. Sometimes they get mad, still doesn't mean Figler was greedy.
 
bosshoss said:
I have a story, which I don't think I've told before. Bandmembers names will be withheld to protect the innocent.

This happened many years ago. Once upon a time, I contacted buckeyebeat in my quest to find a copy of The Botumles Pit. At that stage I didn't know him and it was probably before the G45 forum existed. Mr. Buckeye declared that the only record he would trade the Botumles Pit for, was this certain Ohio monster which was hardly known to exist at the time (maybe 2 copies known). So I decided to switch my energies to finding a copy of that 45 so that I could possibly trade it for The Botumles Pit.

Many moons went by, and in the meantime I was able to acquire The Botumles Pit (and The Suedes as well!) from a well-known collector who decided to sell up. The Ohio monster was as elusive as ever, and finally I got a chance to hear it via an mp3 supplied by Professor Moptopmike. As soon as I heard it, I knew it was a 45 I needed2own. I actually wrote the official G45 entry describing that record a few minutes after I played Professor MTM's mp3 for the first time. I published a wantlist with the Ohio 45 at #1 on the list.

Many more moons went by, until I received a tip-off from someone on the forum, about the lead singer of the group who might have a copy of the 45 for sale. This tip-off included an email address. So, I was onto it straight away. It turns out the singer only had one copy of the 45, and didn't really want to sell it, unless it could be re-pressed so his children could have a copy. He also wanted me to make an offer, so of course I came straight out with a very generous one in the $$$multiple thousands , as this was a once in a lifetime opportunity. The 45 was a mint copy, probably the only known copy in that condition.

The singer was/is a nice guy, but extremely naive about the nature of collectible records. He wouldn't sell the record until a deal had been made to re-press 500 copies of the 45, which I had to arrange. This involved many emails between me, the singer and the record company which I had in mind. All this took quite a few months to finalise. After that, I had to supply high quality vinyl transfers and label scans. Doing this was a pleasure for me.

The killer moment came when the singer confided to me that he was very, very happy with the deal, because 500 copies x $3,000 was going to be a lot of money!! Could I please tell him what his share would be?
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That is awesome! There was a variation on that theme where a buddy was trying to reissue a single where the band thought since the original copies sell for $300 then why not sell the reissues for $200 each!
 
I had a couple of occasions in the mid 80s when I tracked down band members who thought I was an old friend playing a joke on them when I mentioned their record. They couldn't believe anybody remembered them.
The better one was when I located two members of the band Jarvo Runga from New Jersey, Kyle & Keith. I spoke to Kyle first, but nothing came of that. I spoke to Keith for about half an hour, having to explain several times who I was and why I was calling about his old band and record, He was convinced I was Kyle playing a practical joke in him. So for the first 20 or so minutes of the conversation, every so often Keith would say "Come on, Kyle, this is you, isn't it"?
 
I'm hardly a collector but I once stumbled on a beat up but playable first Amboy Dukes LP and the KAK LP which is in VG/VG condition (I guess? Not a dealer so this is not precise). This was literally at the local thrift store in my home town, back in the early 00s. My home town is decidedly hipper now than it was then, so there is less likelihood of this happening now, I'm sure. I understand that the KAK LP is worth a little bit of $$$, which is cool, but mostly I was stoked having already fell in luv with the repro I had. All this gave me a taste of the thrill of finding something "in the wild" but I stick to comps and repros. Subsequent trips to area thrift stores have not been as rewarding.

Anyway, I dig hearing your collector tales, esp about "The Count" who my collector buddy has referenced in his journeys to record shows up and down the Atlantic Seaboard. Anybody know how he got the name?
 
Growing up in Bakersfield, CA, I'd thought I'd seen/had most of the local stuff(Avengers/Buddhas/etc.). 6 years after moving to San Diego I discovered a killer record I'd somehow missed, The Royal Coachmen on LYNN! To my luck, someone had written "Chuck Foster-Singer" on the label. I quick google search turned up a phone number and address. I immediately dialed the number and to my surprise someone answered and a kind old voice said "Hello".
"ummm, is this Chuck Foster?" I asked.
"Why?" the voice turning from cordial to cold in a flash.
"ummm, I'm looking for the singer of The Royal Coachmen"
"Why, does he owe you money? Or does he have kid he doesn't know about?" he asked in a very serious, worried tone.
"Nothing like that" I replied, "I just found a record with his name on it and I like to ask him about it."
His voice changed back to cordial just as quickly,
"Well why didn't you that sooner?!? You had me worried there for a minute kid....yes, yes, I'm Chuck Foster!" lol
We had a lengthy discussion about the band, the other local groups and clubs that had long closed down and been forgotten. The real kicker is it turns out I lived only a few houses down the street from him for many years. And for a short time he was actually my boss at an RV accessories warehouse! My Aunt still lives in the house by him and I stop by and say hello when I'm in town.
 
I haven't found squat when it comes to vinyl in ages... it's mostly people thinking some bashed up mono Elvis thing is worth hundreds (and that was in a saddle festooned joint in Oregon where there was fifty years' dust on a pile of 45s dug from under a mess of books about roping). Best thing I can claim is a Rich Little Canadian political 45 on the Allied label, just because it's Allied and the punchline delivered by Lester B. Pearson about John Diefenbaker involves a bear's butt! :lol:

In the spirit of Christmas/the season though I did promise a rabid Iggy Pop fan a nice big promo poster for The Weirdness reunion album for free (which is what I got it for, and anyway Virgn says 'not for sale' right on it, ha). Also, one time I selflessly passed on a dollar bin Ventures LP signed by the big four to someone in Seattle who I thought should have it more than me. :D

Fun stories.
 
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