Back From The Grave 11

[Frantic]

I HAV

No one comes close to Fred Co

No one comes close to Fred Cole

I have 4 heroes, Iggy, Alice, Robb Huxley & Fred Cole

 

[abc]

Now you' re talkin' Grave quality with this one. A 2-sider.

any plans for release? or is it up anywhere to listen to? i've only heard the clips

 

[Laurent Bigot]

Great song, but covered too much.

didn't seem to be a problem for land of 1000 dances

 

[Jim]

I HAV



I have 4 heroes, Iggy, Alice, Robb Huxley & Fred Cole

Maybe Steve Runolfsson could've been a contender

 

[chuckd]

I'd love to see this one making a come back

Vocals sound a lot like Wade Curtiss.

 

[chuckd]

After many years listening to the BFTG series, I came to understand that the BFTG sound is mostly all about the vocals. Some of the above while having all other ingredients, do not cut it, vocalwise.

So True. Bands span the gamut from the out of tune moody Keggs to Bunker Hill red-lining the soundboard meters but there is a common quality (probably known only to Tim) that ties them together.

 

[The Raven]

The common quality is anger and emotional intensity, combined with a fidelity that rarely gets better than say a decently mixed two track recording in a mid-level studio circa (technology-wise) the early 60's.

So are we still doin "fantasy draft" here for a BFTG 11 track list?? imho, There's TONSA punk monster tracks worth the GRAVE stamp of apporval that never appeared on any BFTG vol. Anyway, here's what i imagine would be a truly WYLDE BFTG 11:

Satan & The D-Men - "She'll Lie

Villains - "Don't Ever Leave Me"

Illusions (from Rheinlander, Wi.) - "Now That It's Over"

Mike Renols & The Infants Of Soul - "When Will I Find Her"

The Morticians - "I Dont Understand"

Corruption Inc. - "She's Gone"

Outside-In - "You Ain't Gonna Bring Me Down On My Knees"

SIDE B:

Super-Band - "Fast Master"
(despite its appearance on those Psych Mafia 'Fuzz' Comps this track AINT psych, its just nutzoid teen punk blasting a 'la Triumphs' "Surfside Date"/Bottumless Pit aka Suedes/One Way Streets/Sur Royal Da Count, etc.)

Twilighters - "Spellbound"

Conductors - "She Said So"

UFO - "Runaway Girl" (US lo-fi pre-teen punx, not the famous UK stoner metal shredders)

Sands Of Time - "When She's Cries For Me"

Sands Of Time - "Come Back Little Girl"

Jades (from Muncie, In.) - "I Cried"

Bake Turner - "Violation" (a snarlin kickass putdown a 'la Roy Junior from a former star NY Jets player!!)

Yeh, yeh, no previously unressiued trax here, but just throw me a bone, the keyword in the term fantasy draft is "fantasy". I made this list just to point out that there's lotsa tracks that remain hard to get on vinyl/cd/tape for the non-collector/pop-hating/download-hating/garage fiend in-training newbs of the world, a demographic which imho has always been the primary one buying all the BFTG comps and Nuggets and Pebbles and such.

 

[Heitkotter77]

Super-Band - "Fast Master"
(despite its appearance on those Psych Mafia 'Fuzz' Comps this track AINT psych, its just nutzoid teen punk blasting a 'la yadda yadda yadda

Who ever said those comps were "psych"?
The compiler never did.

 

[mikael]

Bake Turner is great, but too folk for BFTG.

 

[mikael]

Runaway Girl? I know the boy.

 

[The Raven]

Who ever said those comps were "psych"?
The compiler never did.

lotsa mail order catalogues back in the day tagged both the 'Fistful of Fuzz' and 'For a few Fuzz Guitars More' c.d.'s as "heavy psych" comps when they were first released.

I mean, yeh, there's plenty of psych on those records but a few cuts definitely transcend the psych tag and 'Fast Master' is one of them, and definitely the only song in that series that sounds GRAVE-worthy to me.

While not Grave contenders, "Inside Outside" by Goodly Rubenson, and the tracks from Tapestry Garden and Thackeray Rocke definitely are solid garage rock, not psych either imho. Hell, the Tapestry Garden tune doesnt even have fuzz on the guitar, lol, still it's a great late Girls In The Garage type mover

 

[Outside_Lookin_in]

So good it gives me the shivers - but more in a Last of the Garage Punk Unknowns way than a BFTG way

Runaway Girl? I know the boy.

 

[Heitkotter77]

lotsa mail order catalogues back in the day tagged both the 'Fistful of Fuzz' and 'For a few Fuzz Guitars More' c.d.'s as "heavy psych" comps when they were first released.

Well, they were wrong but that was deemed the way to sell them. Still, it was always about the fuzz; whether garage/punk/psych/prog was irrelevant.
There's too much emphasis on labels in music, anyway.

 

[Heitkotter77]

I mean, yeh, there's plenty of psych on those records but a few cuts definitely transcend the psych tag and 'Fast Master' is one of them, and definitely the only song in that series that sounds GRAVE-worthy to me.

If we're going to label them, I wouldn't call Fastmaster proto-punk or BFTG sound. Super Band was about teens discovering Led Zep in 1970.

By the way, I do consider a few BFTG songs Fuzzworthy.

 

[The Raven]

If we're going to label them, I wouldn't call Fastmaster proto-punk or BFTG sound. Super Band was about teens discovering Led Zep in 1970.

By the way, I do consider a few BFTG songs Fuzzworthy.

lol, i dont hear the Zep in those kids at all, not even close to it.

I mean Randy Alvey & Green Fuz and lotsa other primal teen punkers were big Beatles fans, but they missed the mark by a super long shot if their recordings were supposed to be "beatle-esque pop". Same goes for Marble Phrogg, Stone Harbor, One Way Streets, etc., all bands like Super-Band who wanted to follow the prevalent trends but imho ended up just soundin like insane lo-fi rock that could've been made in almost any era.

After all, insanity is truly timeless

 

[Heitkotter77]

lol, i dont hear the Zep in those kids at all, not even close to it.

I mean Randy Alvey & Green Fuz and lotsa other primal teen punkers were big Beatles fans, but they missed the mark by a super long shot if their recordings were supposed to be "beatle-esque pop". Same goes for Marble Phrogg, Stone Harbor, One Way Streets, etc., all bands like Super-Band who wanted to follow the prevalent trends but imho ended up just soundin like insane lo-fi rock that could've been made in almost any era.

After all, insanity is truly timeless

You need to get your mind and ears out of the garage for this.
It’s 1970, these kids have heard and become enthralled by Zep and try to come up with their own version of “Communication Breakdown”. Singer does his Plant shrieks & howls, throughout (especially right before break & at end). Guitarist takes breakneck Jimmy solo, albeit a tad less successfully.

Compare:

Yeah, it comes out as insane lo-fi rock, but the influences are obvious to most.

 

[The Raven]

definitely dont hear "Communication Breakdown"..... BUT i do here a lil bit o' Zep's "Rock'N'Roll" (from Zep IV) in the attack and speed, but honestly Zep was channeling some pretty retro rockabilly/r'n'b on that tune, so it's tuff to say if that's the main influence (unless of course you know the band personally and they said Zep was their main influence).

The weezing mid 60's sounding organ on "Fast Master" also definitely does not reveal a typical "heavy" 70's influence (unless you count The Modern Lovers or VU as "heavy" 70's bands). I guess you could also probably throw out some Blue Cheer and MC5 comparisons to this song, but, again, that's more cuz of the volume/speed level and the screaming all of which can easily be chocked up to pure teen nervous energy as much as any heavy rock worship

So I still stand by my claim, Super-Band would be a great addition to a BFTG, play it between "Surfside Date" and The Swamp Rats' version of "Psycho" or "Louie Louie" and it just fits perfectly

Furthermore, if The Cords - a buncha straightlaced seminary students - can make it on to BFTG than so can a buncha pot smoking hessians (and actually, that already happened, Warren already broke his own "rules" by adding acid fried punx Sweet Cherry on to the repress of BFTG 2? or was that 3? FYI, i love Sweet Cherry!)

 

[Outside_Lookin_in]

I also detect zero Led Zeppelin influence, but I do hear Land of 1000 dances. Considering the apparent age the band members, that makes more sense to me.

 

[Mr.Segment]

Never heard that Super Band 45 until now. Yikes. I love the weird and wonderful, but those vocals makes me wanna go deaf. Would be a horrible BFTG inclusion (i.e. it would never happen)

 

[pfft]

Never heard that Super Band 45 until now. Yikes. I love the weird and wonderful, but those vocals makes me wanna go deaf. Would be a horrible BFTG inclusion (i.e. it would never happen)

I dig it, but I agree - there is no way that belongs on a BFTG volume!