bin laden is dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you mean that crappy iphone vid with one of his numerous double getting hanged? ;)

Totally different case. Remember there was a trial before Saddam was hanged, in which he played his role quite authentically. It's very unlikely that he found a way to save his neck.
I'm sure we will see a photo of an exploded head, but whoever's head it will be, it's not Bin Laden's. The man is long since dead. There hasn't been any kind of relevant evidence for his being alive since years. There won't be relevant evidence of his death either. He was a projection of fear. To say the least.
 
Let's face it...the U.S. could parade the body around, and it will be a "double." Or show the pictures, and they'll be photoshopped. Or present video evidence, and it will have been tampered. How can the government win? I'm far from an apologist, but it gets tiring when everything now-a-days is believed to be a conspiracy. Nothing is taken at face value anymore.

And the Taliban and Pakastani government are going along with this "ruse" why?
 
Let's face it...the U.S. could parade the body around, and it will be a "double." Or show the pictures, and they'll be photoshopped. Or present video evidence, and it will have been tampered. How can the government win? I'm far from an apologist, but it gets tiring when everything now-a-days is believed to be a conspiracy. Nothing is taken at face value anymore.

And the Taliban and Pakastani government are going along with this "ruse" why?

Exactly:cool:
 
everything now-a-days is believed to be a conspiracy
Not everything. There are things I believe and others I don't. The whole Bin Laden story is fake. It has been fake for years. On the last pictures of him in 2007 he looked considerably younger (than before) and had a bigger nose.
If you liquidate somebody of political importance you have to produce evidence. Otherwise it's just a story. Very simple.
 
Quite laughable how the sect of "Doubting Thomases" perpetually claim "fake" without even one factoid of proof that can be universally validated.
Give it a rest. PLEEZE.
 
Quite laughable how the sect of "Doubting Thomases" perpetually claim "fake" without even one factoid of proof that can be universally validated.
Give it a rest. PLEEZE.
I think the truth is too simple for some people, so they like to make things more complicated.
 
Maybe it's because "some" people live in countries with a history that shows all too well how the minds of people can be manipulated by politics and mass media. Doubt isn't dangerous to anybody. Blind belief can be.
But this here hasn't even to do with doubt. Over the last ten years the vital signs of Bin Laden have been extremely sparse. And everytime something popped up it turned out to be fake. It's years ago that I started thinking this man is long since dead. It's not conspiracy theory, just common sense.

But, of course, I might be wrong...
 
Maybe it's because "some" people live in countries with a history that shows all too well how the minds of people can be manipulated by politics and mass media. Doubt isn't dangerous to anybody. Blind belief can be.
But this here hasn't even to do with doubt. Over the last ten years the vital signs of Bin Laden have been extremely sparse. And everytime something popped up it turned out to be fake. It's years ago that I started thinking this man is long since dead. It's not conspiracy theory, just common sense.

But, of course, I might be wrong...

And then some of us live in the real world and don't give a shit how he died or when or why or where....JUST AS LONG AS HE'S FUCKIN' DEAD!!!! As far as I'm concerned this is the 1st right thing this useless president has done yet. So I give him props. ;)
 
One good thing about taking him alive and to the The Hague would've been how there wouldn't now be any confusion, and if he was unarmed that seems like it could've been doable. I thought originally Obama would be a Carter rerun, but lately I'm thinking more Woodrow Wilson (compromising and waffling under pressure). The changing story and the not releasing any pictures is starting to overshadow the actual accomplishment (to whatever extent people think it is one).
 
Do people really believe that the Bush administration woulda kept it a secret if they'd killed Bin Laden? And then just give away the credit to the Obama admin? I like my conspiracy theories as much as anyone else, but this one's just plain ridicolous.
 
One good thing about taking him alive and to the The Hague would've been how there wouldn't now be any confusion, and if he was unarmed that seems like it could've been doable. I thought originally Obama would be a Carter rerun, but lately I'm thinking more Woodrow Wilson (compromising and waffling under pressure). The changing story and the not releasing any pictures is starting to overshadow the actual accomplishment (to whatever extent people think it is one).
Woodrow Wilson was the most evil sumbitch prez we've ever had!!! :mad: Doesn't say much for Obama.
 
Do people really believe that the Bush administration woulda kept it a secret if they'd killed Bin Laden? And then just give away the credit to the Obama admin? I like my conspiracy theories as much as anyone else, but this one's just plain ridicolous.
I think he was killed at a relatively early stage of the invasion into Afghanistan. That's at least when he stopped giving any credible signs of life. He was probably killed by a bomb, not a gun shot, so the US army wouldn't even know for sure. Or maybe he was just sick and died of some disease. Either way both the terrorists and the allies had their reasons to keep the myth of Bin Laden alive. The necessity for this seems to have ended now.
 
I say it again: this here isn't about conspiracy. It's about strategy. Warfare is not only about shooting.
 
And to all you Obama critics: I can't judge if Obama is a good president or not. But he is black. And I think it's an enormous accomplishment for the US American people to have elected a black president. I have great respect for that and I wish him and the American people good luck.
 
black smlack...put a martian in there for all I care. Just quit fucking things up. I was just sitting in the barber chair getting a cut and a guy hands me his cell phone with a pic of Bin laden with his eye missing and some brains ooozing out....AWESOME!!! It looked real. I say for the wimps who don't wanna see the damage...paint and X over the hole where his eye used to be and make it look like those old time cartoons...Man...I thought that guy was homely before but we really gotta thank the Seals for hitting this devil with the ugly stick!!!!:confused:
 
Hopefully you don't claim to be a good Christian. It would be an insult to anyone who is...
You don't have to "paint an X over the hole" to make it look like a cartoon, because it is a cartoon already, or rather a montage. Google it and you'll soon find out.
 
Hopefully you don't claim to be a good Christian. It would be an insult to anyone who is...
You don't have to "paint an X over the hole" to make it look like a cartoon, because it is a cartoon already, or rather a montage. Google it and you'll soon find out.

Bin Fuckden wasn't a good muslim. Paint an X over the hole and release the picture USA....