Dave Baldwin
Tennalaga Class
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- May 5, 2011
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- Deep Texas
The Centars could pass as a teenbeat band. Raymond Mara sounds kinda like the doofus guy at your local "mom & pop" hardware store.
Dovers new LP
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Rythmn Boy
Ikon Class
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- Jan 18, 2016
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- Darwin, NT
Weird Turtle is certainly the side likely to get the most spins.
masterbeat64
Fleetwood Class
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Good choice Dave. I've long had a penchant for these tight-rhythm, organ/guitar driven instros. Always refreshing to pitch one of these into a listening session and there's a good number of the them on the reverse sides of many teenbeat 45s.
Another 3K tinged disc is a 1961 waxing Joe Norris on SOM. The top deck is 'Son Of Mississippi', a segregationist counterblast to the Mississippi Freedom Riders. The flip is 'Rock On Out Of This World' a shuffle paced rockabilly number with a drawled vocal and ringing guitar. Reminds me a bit of Little Donnie Bowshier's 'Rock And Roll Joys' But definitely no post '64 teenbeat vibe to it.
Incidentally, The Fingermen sounds like a great band to see on a Friday night down at your local youth club!
Hicksville Hogwash
Tennalaga Class
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- Apr 11, 2012
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- Gauley Bridge, West Virginia.
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- Apr 20, 2011
- Location
- The shores of southern CT
That is not the Dovers. The pic is found on the Ernie & The Emperors facebook page.
Dave Baldwin
Tennalaga Class
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- May 5, 2011
- Location
- Deep Texas
Same drummer?
- Joined
- Apr 20, 2011
- Location
- The shores of southern CT
When Rick Morinini and Tony Rivas quit the Dovers after the 2nd single, Randy Busby came from Ernie & the Emperors to play drums. Randy was a guitarist and bassist (could play either instrument). I spoke to Randy once, around 20 years ago ( he has since passed away). As for the photo, not sure if that is Randy on bass, but it is definitely not Rick or Randy on drums.
Hallucalation
Ikon Class
- Joined
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Rediscovering The Dovers: A Brilliant Garage Folk-Rock Anthology - It's Psychedelic Baby Magazine
Admittedly, I might be a little bit late to the party for this particular reissue album by mid-sixties Californian garage folk-rockers the Dovers, but not so late as to forgo imparting something of the overall greatness of this anthology — scant though it may appear to be — to any modern-day...
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The guy who reviewed the release, after i pointed out to him that release is basically nothing more than another bootleg with outdated sound quality, got all defensive and claimed that no master tapes exist and i has nothing to prove and started to insult me. And Massimo still continue to insist that this release is from the tapes. Funny guys those two. Misty Lane basically put out overpriced bootleg to prevent another bootleg collecting money.
Dave Baldwin
Tennalaga Class
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- May 5, 2011
- Location
- Deep Texas
Totally Fender Jazzmaster chic!
greenfuzz
Orlyn Class
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- Apr 23, 2011
From a link posted on Chris’s site: https://www.coastalview.com/news/gr...cle_b1e510cb-8886-4dae-8866-13d343eb06b4.html
DAMN!
But us oversea can't see the webpage tho.
Sebastian
Ikon Class
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Yes, seems to be blocked outside the US. But here is the info:
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Granada and The Dovers
By Dr. Jim Campos
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AM Top 40 radio reached its peak in the 1960s. The wide variety of musical styles of the 1950s on AM radio had given way to the teen idols of the late ‘50s and early ‘60s to, perhaps, the inevitability of the Beatles and all the guitar bands that imitated their style.
One phenomenon of the era was the garage bands. Have a group with a rhythm, lead and bass guitar, add a drummer and you are equipped to cut a record. With some luck, and knowing the right people, you could make it up the charts. A group from Portland, Oregon, the Kingsmen, for example, cut a cover of an Afro Cuban song, “Louie, Louie.” They put some unintelligible lyrics to it and had a #2 record on the national Billboard chart on Jan. 4, 1964.
Carpinteria had its own version of a garage band: the Del Mars, which recorded on Miramar Records. Sounds pretty Carpinterian, right? Various businesses in Carpinteria have used the Del Mar name over the years. Miramar? Well, the Rosewood Miramar Beach resort is back in business in the same spot it vacated many years ago just off the 101 Freeway, oceanside, between Summerland and Montecito.
Tim Granada (CHS class of ’62) was the lead singer, songwriter and arranger for the Del Mars. Joining forces with Bruce Clawson from another band, they formed a new group, The Dovers, destined to have a taste of fame.
Granada revealed to editor Shirley Douglas (CHS class of 1966), who interviewed him for the El Rincon student page of the Carpinteria Herald (Dec. 2, 1965), that the Del Mars’ manager, Tony Cary, made the decision to remove the Carpinteria reference in the band’s name to The Dovers. The “British Invasion” in pop music was in full swing, dominating the radio air waves, so the British sounding name was chosen, hopefully giving The Dovers an edge in finding their place in the music-making business.
At the time of the interview, The Dovers were riding high with a regional hit record “She’s Gone” that was getting regular air play throughout California, especially in the Los Angeles market. They were mobbed during a performance in Fresno, such was their popularity. Granada was working hard to have enough material to put out an album soon. His, and the band’s newfound popularity, meant long hours of practice and songwriting. “As long as people enjoy my music, I don’t mind all the work I put into it,” he said to El Rincon.
Alas, The Dovers’ time in the limelight was short-lived, not lasting even a year. In-fighting and drug use short-circuited the path to fame. Despite having the backing of Johnny Fairchild, the influential disc jockey on KIST 1340 in Santa Barbara, their total output was four two-sided 45 rpm records — a total of eight songs. Their output was thus still about four songs shy of the typical 12-track album of the era. Within a year, Fairchild’s support for local bands helped the Strawberry Alarm Clock reach the national #1 Billboard spot with the song “Incense and Peppermints” (Nov. 25, 1967).
The Dovers band was finished by mid-1966, as their peers the Strawberry Alarm Clock (nee The Sixpence) shot to fame. Decades later, however, The Dovers would develop a worldwide cult-following based on their eight songs. The Internet is filled with queries about who this mysterious group was with such great songs. But its lead singer and key songwriter, Granada, had gone underground and would remain so for the rest of his life. In fact, one of the only known interviews that Granada ever gave was the one to Shirley Douglass on the El Rincon page of his hometown newspaper, the Carpinteria Herald. Another curious fact was that no picture of Tim Granada existed on the Internet until this Throwback Thursday article was first published in the Coastal View News back in 2020. Within days of its publication, a picture of Tim Granada’s high school senior portrait appeared on a Dover’s fan page on the Internet. Somewhere, someone was paying attention to the CVN’s citing of Tim Granada and The Dovers and must have got hold of a 1962 CHS yearbook!
The fan base of Tim Granada and The Dovers will be glad to see several never published photos of the group as both Del Mars and as The Dovers in this Throwback Thursday column. They come from family relative Rob Leighty (CHS class of 1975). His mother Jeannie Gonzales was Tim Granada’s sister, who kept a family album that was passed down to Rob.
If you would like to see how revered Tim Granada and The Dovers are, try Googling them on the Internet, or take a listen to their music on YouTube. In 2009, the Psychedelic Rock’n’roll blogspot had this to say “Mr. Granada is a genius. The music of The Dovers is still as fresh and exciting today as it must have been upon its initial release in 1965-66.”
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Jim Campos is a native born Carpinterian. Upon retiring from a 35-year career with the Carpinteria Unified School District in 2006, he joined a group of local historians to publish two pictorial history books on Carpinteria. Jim’s curiosity of local history grew from that experience. He is currently serving on the Carpinteria Cultural Foundation which honors the achievements and contributions of Carpinteria’s diverse community. He is also on the board of the Carpinteria Valley Museum of History, where he writes occasional in-depth articles. In 2020, Jim wrote an entire year of columns for CVN’s Throwback Thursday.
