is this semi-psychedelic tune from '69 the most underrated song ever?

The Raven said:
'Every self-respecting music fan has it: That one mega-obscure musical touchstone they’ll brand “criminally underrated.” For better or worse, I’m no exception to the rule, so I must proclaim Lindsey Moore’s "I Start Counting" as the world’s most criminally underrated song...'

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http://www.splicetoday.com/music/the-world-s-most-criminally-underrated-song

whats yr choice, garage or otherwise?
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You did get one thing right....It is a song. The world has lots of underrated songs and this isn't one of them. :flush:
 
Under-rated of course does not mean unknown. It means known but not rated highly enough.

As for my choice, it depends. If you're talking about under-rated by the public at large, then it's the entire '60s garage catalog. If you're talking about under-rated by those "in the know", then it would be non-English language '60s garage in general. If you're talking about specific songs which are under-rated by people who are already '60s garage fans, then I have a question. How do we know it's under-rated? The only official rating project undertaken so far is Teenbeat Mayhem, and it's as accurate as anyone could reasonably ask for.

The G1000 Ratings Project will answer this question when it's complete. Because it will show which 45s are not highly rated by the TBM panel, yet still achieve a high market value
 
lol, I knew u guys would hate this...

for real though, this was no attempt at trolling, just wanted to c what the common consensus on the subject of "underrated" music was, or if there even was one. like, does everybody here think of the same things when they think of underrated music? or are we all on separate planets?

and Boss Hoss, in terms of genre I mean't the greater spectrum of "pop" in general: super obscure 60s garage, mega hits that r frequently slagged (i.e. guilty pleasures), and just anything that fits the mould of song-based "pop" music, teen beat or otherwise
 
I think the term 'underrated' is pretty irrelevant with the current ability to access a huge cross spectrum of music instantaneously. I can't really seperate underrated from unheard. In the case of the past 60 years of rock/ rock-n-roll music, a lot depends on what older/deceased/no longer active artsists' catalogs are getting recycled. All it takes for an artist to go from underrated to (over)exposed is a box set or two, Facebook shares, and a feature on NPR's "All Things Considered". Most of the artists who would fit my description of underrated are those who had a fair amount of success, commercially and critically, in their time, but have not translated well into the current 20 and 30 year olds taste. Soul vocal groups from the 1960s and especially the early 1970s fit that description for me - stuff that is not funk, Northern Soul, sampled, or part of operation like Motown.
 
Buckeye, do you mean maybe lesser known stuff influenced by the Philly/Chicago sound ala Gamble & Huff, or vocal groups that are just completely original from the same era?
 
I'm just curious what makes folks like you experts? The fact that you own some records?

What bands have you played in? What instruments have you ever played? Did you get a degree in music?

Many of the garage bands you folks seem to idolize really suck, musically... so from this musicians perspective "collectors" tend to be deluded when it comes to MUSICIANSHIP.

You may be a minutia geek, but that doesn't really qualify you to rate music, except of course in your own mind. Owning a bunch of records doesn't automagically make you a music critic... particularly when it comes to garage. hell, half those guitars weren't even tuned properly.

You're rating music by your personal taste. All righty then.

That is what yuppies do.

I'd try being less judgemental if you aren't qualified. Try just enjoying the music instead of being a pretentious arrogant person with records who plays no instruments, yet critiques musicians.

You aren't really qualified, except in your own mind.

I guess i have my own perspective. I don't judge other musicians, but i will judge NON musicians who think they're qualified to critique music.

What instruments do you folks play? Please list them.

Guitar
Bass
Piano
Drums
Harmonica

(I was a sound engineer assistant at a large music venue... and a musician, so perhaps my work experience makes me like i am. i've worked shows for ray charles, stevie ray, kingsX, white zombie, los lobos, etc ad nausem. those legendary musicians aren't as judgemental as YOU about other music.)
 
you mad bro?

yes i realize, but i don't really agree. you may think they're garage gods. that is fine.

they may have large collections, but that doesn't automagically make them qualified to judge MUSICIANS was my point. guess you didn't catch that.

what am i doing here? i've got two buildings full of records. i love MUSIC. i'm a musician. i was a sound engineer assistant. my life has been AROUND actual live music for decades. i also started buying records in the late 60s and haven't stopped yet.

hell, i know some of the guys who played in the bad roads on jin. :^/

my point is you folks seemed more focused on minutia and rarity, than musicianship.
i find that a bit revealing from non musicians.

when you're able to do it yourself, you'll be better qualified to be so judgemental of musicians.

how many garage bands have any of you played in? let me guess, add all of you up, and the answer is ZERO?

try not to be so judgemental of musicians. you folks really aren't that qualified, except in your own minds. merely third party observation. i'm entitled to my opinion.

working the ray charles show was awesome. i've got hands on experience with actual musicians. you?
 
Lagniappe Records said:
you mad bro?

yes i realize, but i don't really agree. you may think they're garage gods. that is fine.

they may have large collections, but that doesn't automagically make them qualified to judge MUSICIANS was my point. guess you didn't catch that.

what am i doing here? i've got two buildings full of records. i love MUSIC. i'm a musician. i was a sound engineer assistant. my life has been AROUND actual live music for decades. i also started buying records in the late 60s and haven't stopped yet.

hell, i know some of the guys who played in the bad roads on jin. :^/

my point is you folks seemed more focused on minutia and rarity, than musicianship.
i find that a bit revealing from non musicians.

when you're able to do it yourself, you'll be better qualified to be so judgemental of musicians.

how many garage bands have any of you played in? let me guess, add all of you up, and the answer is ZERO?

try not to be so judgemental of musicians. you folks really aren't that qualified, except in your own minds. merely third party observation. i'm entitled to my opinion.

working the ray charles show was awesome. i've got hands on experience with actual musicians. you?
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If you are such an expert, why do you continually post non-garage shit to the forum? You do understand what represents '60s "garage rock", don't you? You like to tell us all how musically qualified you are, but your posts point to you as being completely clueless.
 
Lagniappe Records said:
you mad bro?

yes i realize, but i don't really agree. you may think they're garage gods. that is fine.

they may have large collections, but that doesn't automagically make them qualified to judge MUSICIANS was my point. guess you didn't catch that.

what am i doing here? i've got two buildings full of records. i love MUSIC. i'm a musician. i was a sound engineer assistant. my life has been AROUND actual live music for decades. i also started buying records in the late 60s and haven't stopped yet.

hell, i know some of the guys who played in the bad roads on jin. :^/

my point is you folks seemed more focused on minutia and rarity, than musicianship.
i find that a bit revealing from non musicians.

when you're able to do it yourself, you'll be better qualified to be so judgemental of musicians.

how many garage bands have any of you played in? let me guess, add all of you up, and the answer is ZERO?

try not to be so judgemental of musicians. you folks really aren't that qualified, except in your own minds. merely third party observation. i'm entitled to my opinion.

working the ray charles show was awesome. i've got hands on experience with actual musicians. you?
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Hey Fabian, you have officially become the HARRY REED of this forum.:boggle:
 
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