Lost Sounds Montana, Vol. 1

Milwaukee Girly Blokes?
Modern Garage Buildings?
Mad Greek Bands?

some kind of combination of all of the above?
So the boss is afraid to say the name also...

THE WORST BOOK EVER WRITTEN ON 6ts GARAGE. Or as the author says one million times in the book GARAGE BANDS. No shit, he writes garage band in almost every sentence or two. I'll be sending this copy over to the Boss in Australia. If you can read more than the 1st half I'll be amazed!!!!:flush:
 
Frantic said:
I'm surprised Mikey D. didn't get it while he was on here a minute ago.

I haven't bought this yet. I wasn't sure if it was '60s only or current music too. Looks like I'll pass.
 
Are you talking about that book of the guy named Peter Roller?
I read a few pages and to me it looks like a decent scholarly take on a fairly unscholarly subject. The way the author explains the terms and their origins is clarifying. The way he describes social and historical surroundings is interesting and comprehensive. My impression is that this guy knows how to describe and explain and put one and one together to give a rational and comprehensive explanation of why and how a certain historical matter has been evolving.
The only thing that might keep me from ordering that book is that it's about Milwaukee. But then again the author is totally right when he says that "Milwaukee is an ideal Anywhere, USA". A book about Texas garage bands would contain a lot of better known names, but for a social and historical study of garage music as a "grassroots" movement, Milwaukee might be an even better place. It's not so much about the music, descriptions of which are boring anyway. Like Greil Marcus endlessly "describing" Doors live jams. THAT is the worst thing that I have ever read on music!
It's more about youth culture in the US in provincial areas in the 1960s. That is not ALL what 60s garage music is all about, but a lot of it. If I want to know more about its background the author's approach is definitely an option. Especially BECAUSE it is specific about the regional area and THUS more detailed and comprehensive about the circumstances than a more general approach.
But of course I would have to read more of it...

So, but what is the best book about a regional 60s scene in the US, in your opinion?
 
Are you talking about that book of the guy named Peter Roller?
I read a few pages and to me it looks like a decent scholarly take on a fairly unscholarly subject. The way the author explains the terms and their origins is clarifying. The way he describes social and historical surroundings is interesting and comprehensive. My impression is that this guy knows how to describe and explain and put one and one together to give a rational and comprehensive explanation of why and how a certain historical matter has been evolving.
The only thing that might keep me from ordering that book is that it's about Milwaukee. But then again the author is totally right when he says that "Milwaukee is an ideal Anywhere, USA". A book about Texas garage bands would contain a lot of better known names, but for a social and historical study of garage music as a "grassroots" movement, Milwaukee might be an even better place. It's not so much about the music, descriptions of which are boring anyway. Like Greil Marcus endlessly "describing" Doors live jams. THAT is the worst thing that I have ever read on music!
It's more about youth culture in the US in provincial areas in the 1960s. That is not ALL what 60s garage music is all about, but a lot of it. If I want to know more about its background the author's approach is definitely an option. Especially BECAUSE it is specific about the regional area and THUS more detailed and comprehensive about the circumstances than a more general approach.
But of course I would have to read more of it...

So, but what is the best book about a regional 60s scene in the US, in your opinion?
This is the most boring book EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He only really writes about a few bands. The Legends, the Mustard Men, and then later bands Finch, Electric Assholes, and then he jumps to the 80s, Violent Femmes and 2 or 3 other 80s punky bands that he doesn't even say if they recorded or not. What's totally bizarre is that he writes a whole book and doesn't really discuss their music, I think he mentions the Legends Charlena but he never mentions the Mustard Men record and never mentions if the Electric Assholes recorded, nor the later bands. How do you write a book on MILWAUKEE GARAGE BANDS and only write about 2 or 3 60's bands and 3 or 4 70's 80's 90's bands. Another weird thing is he jumps back and forth from the 60's to the 90's with ease, like they are somehow the same era. There are a few cool pics in the book and just a few paragraphs with some useful tidbits. The thing that really stopped me in my tracks half way through the book was his use of the term GARAGE BANDS. I am not kidding, he uses it 100s of times in this book. Almost every paragraph contains the words GARAGE BAND/BANDS. I think he uses the words Garage & Band/Bands more than the words AND & THE!!! It is sickening. How do you write a whole book on Milwaukee and not even go into the bands recordings??? He mostly pontificates on why the bands (whoops...garage bands) chose to practice in the basement vs. the garage or vise versa. I really wanted to dig this book. I was born and raised in Milwaukee and there are some great rekkids from that area. Anyway to my buddy Axel, if you wanna reach a opinion based on one or 2 sample pages you would be fooling yourself. If each one of you each take a different page out of this book and read it you might think that this book is going to be pretty good. But if you put those pages together, I guarantee you won't make it half way through, although there is a few of you so starved for anything 60s who might force themselves to like it. I will be sending this book to the Boss. Hopefully he'll read a bit and sent it to the next guy. And on and on. I've only ever not finished reading a book a few times in my life. I'm sorry to out this crap but it had to be done. Mark, give us your take after you receive it. :flush: For those of you who like the term Teen Beat over Garage and want to see this music referred as Teen Beat from now on, just send this book to everyone you know and within one month I guarantee that no one will ever use the term GARAGE BAND again! Milwaukee deserved better.
 
Reads like a boring university thesis.
A lot of good nonfiction is basically like a university thesis. It doesn't have to be boring just because it's structured like a thesis. Apart from research and theoretical reflection it's a matter of writing skills. But without the theoretical background nonfiction often turns into a mere hodgepodge.
 
This is the most boring book EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He only really writes about a few bands. The Legends, the Mustard Men, and then later bands Finch, Electric Assholes, and then he jumps to the 80s, Violent Femmes and 2 or 3 other 80s punky bands that he doesn't even say if they recorded or not. What's totally bizarre is that he writes a whole book and doesn't really discuss their music, I think he mentions the Legends Charlena but he never mentions the Mustard Men record and never mentions if the Electric Assholes recorded, nor the later bands. How do you write a book on MILWAUKEE GARAGE BANDS and only write about 2 or 3 60's bands and 3 or 4 70's 80's 90's bands. Another weird thing is he jumps back and forth from the 60's to the 90's with ease, like they are somehow the same era. There are a few cool pics in the book and just a few paragraphs with some useful tidbits. The thing that really stopped me in my tracks half way through the book was his use of the term GARAGE BANDS. I am not kidding, he uses it 100s of times in this book. Almost every paragraph contains the words GARAGE BAND/BANDS. I think he uses the words Garage & Band/Bands more than the words AND & THE!!! It is sickening. How do you write a whole book on Milwaukee and not even go into the bands recordings??? He mostly pontificates on why the bands (whoops...garage bands) chose to practice in the basement vs. the garage or vise versa. I really wanted to dig this book. I was born and raised in Milwaukee and there are some great rekkids from that area. Anyway to my buddy Axel, if you wanna reach a opinion based on one or 2 sample pages you would be fooling yourself. If each one of you each take a different page out of this book and read it you might think that this book is going to be pretty good. But if you put those pages together, I guarantee you won't make it half way through, although there is a few of you so starved for anything 60s who might force themselves to like it. I will be sending this book to the Boss. Hopefully he'll read a bit and sent it to the next guy. And on and on. I've only ever not finished reading a book a few times in my life. I'm sorry to out this crap but it had to be done. Mark, give us your take after you receive it. :flush: For those of you who like the term Teen Beat over Garage and want to see this music referred as Teen Beat from now on, just send this book to everyone you know and within one month I guarantee that no one will ever use the term GARAGE BAND again! Milwaukee deserved better.
Thanks for the explanation. You're making a point here. Sounds like a rather sloppy affair.
But, again, what socio-historical study about a regional garage scene can you recommend?
 
I haven't bought this yet. I wasn't sure if it was '60s only or current music too. Looks like I'll pass.
I need someone to blame for buying this. I think I'll blame Mikey 'cause he listed it on his site and I foolishly clicked on the link....Jes' kidding Mikey...:sneaky:
 
You must not have read Garage Rock and its Roots: Musical Rebels and the Drive for Individuality by Eric James Abbey. Here' a sample paragraph:

"Without the appearance of Garage Rock in postmodern times our society would be left without such an extreme challenge to capitalist desires, and a nostalgic sentimentality of subjectivity would not be available as a basis for constructed individualism."

Try plowing through the rest of that!
 
You must not have read Garage Rock and its Roots: Musical Rebels and the Drive for Individuality by Eric James Abbey. Here' a sample paragraph:

"Without the appearance of Garage Rock in postmodern times our society would be left without such an extreme challenge to capitalist desires, and a nostalgic sentimentality of subjectivity would not be available as a basis for constructed individualism."

Try plowing through the rest of that!
YUK...but he never mentions garage band/bands once. Well...Garage rock once. I don't think Alec Palao or I have used the term GARAGE BAND more than 3 times in all our liner notes put together. I'm almost inclined to count how many times this guy uses GARAGE BAND/BANDS. I'd say close to 1000 or more!!! :flush:
 
A lot of good nonfiction is basically like a university thesis. It doesn't have to be boring just because it's structured like a thesis. Apart from research and theoretical reflection it's a matter of writing skills. But without the theoretical background nonfiction often turns into a mere hodgepodge.
Captain Obvious to the rescue.
No, it doesn't have to be boring just because it's structured like a thesis. But, when it's structured like a thesis (citations, bibliography) AND it's boring, then we have a boring university thesis. Understand?
 
I just found a copy of the 1965 Portland state university yearbook that has a couple of pictures of a band called the Del Rays playing at a dance, which I just figured out is the first name of PAUL BEARER AND THE HEARSEMEN! Now THAT`s a good book!