Metal in the garage

[Lee de Parade]

I was pointing out some cool 60s garage tracks to the guy who runs the awesome The Day After The Sabbath blog. And I could not help to ponder over the general lack of heaviness and grooviness in the 60s garage department.

Can you guys help me think? PDW comes to mind and some tracks of a World of Acid and Brain Shadows Vol. 1.

Can we guys not rock hard n' heavy? What is wrong with us?

 

[Laurent Bigot]

Heavy can be neat sometimes, but most of the time, it's not. Nothing wrong with being mostly not heavy then. If you want garage band going heavy, try this (2 years before Sabbath)

 

[Lee de Parade]

I want my garage to be punky and neat, but some heavy boogie back in 67 would be neat to hear.

But WOOOW that track was great! I can't believe I've passed on that LP as many times as I have..

 

[bosshoss]

This is more my kind of heavy. 1,000 years before Sabbath.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVyJBl4G8xY

 

[Laurent Bigot]

But WOOOW that track was great! I can't believe I've passed on that LP as many times as I have..

the rest of the album is straight pop (not even great at it).

 

[Frantic]

Don't know if it's heavier than Sabbath but it's much cooler and it's from '68 and it's finally getting a affordable ($15) LP reissue from the coolest little label going today...

http://thirdmanrecords.com/news/view/public-nuisance-gotta-survive-lp-preorder

 

[chas_kit]

I could not help to ponder over the general lack of heaviness and grooviness in the 60s garage department.

Can we guys not rock hard n' heavy? What is wrong with us?

I always thought garage was THEE conduit & precursor of 'heavy'. It started with Link Wray, but there are dozens of 'heavy' garage cuts - Velvet Haze, Sonic's "He's Waiting", French Church, "Who Dat" etc. Don't let the melodic qualities of the times blind you to the heaviness of these sounds. Sabbath never even gets as "heavy" as "He's Waiting", in my opinion.

 

[axel]

My attention was drawn to heavy sounds since the subject turned up here some months ago. The only thing I could find that really fulfills my image of being "heavy" was the album Master of Reality by Black Sabbath, which I like quite a bit. "Dead Man" by Josefus also sounds "heavy" to me in the best sense. Apart from that I couldn't find much that's really heavy. Mostly it's just hard rock and not heavy (with guitar walls like liquid lead)...
Tunes like "Rumble" are quite heavy, that's true.
But before asking 60s garage rock'n'roll to be heavy I'd wish at least heavy rock would fullfil its promise. Where is the real "heavy" shit? Please enlighten me.

 

[Lee de Parade]

Hahaha! You guys...:rolleyes:

 

[Lee de Parade]

Thanks for the Velvet Haze track tip (suppose you meant Last Day On Earth). Heavy, indeed.
You think Who Dat is heavy? I never really 'got' that song.

 

[mansson66]

Things To Come - 'Darkness'
...even the same chord progression as 'Black Sabbath' + it ends with a sinister rave-up as well. Except it's '67 and not '70 :)
Unreleased at the time so the similarities are purely incidental. It just shows that Sabbath weren't the first guys who used the 'devil's interval' to write a song with a dark lyrical content.

 

[chas_kit]

You think Who Dat is heavy? I never really 'got' that song.

Cranked up loud from an original 45 it's an impressive listen.

I guess there are different kinds of heavy - doom & gloom or heavy rockin!

Boogie rock is almost never "heavy" in my book, though there are hundreds of songs and albums classified as heavy that are really just cranked up boogie.

 

[Lee de Parade]

I was pretty much going for what Laurent & Måns provided.
Make no mistake, I know that teenbeat (or garage, whatever) is its own entity. It is not punk. It is not metal. Some would even say that it's only rock'n'roll (hi, Tom!).

But if you wanna do some revisionistic jerk-offery, there is some anamolies to be found. Like Satori's pre-Venom wail, or Swamp Rats 77ish blitzkrieg on the senses or the evil chord changes of Things To Come's Darkness.

I just want more people to get the feel of, and grow a liking to 60s garage by luring them into the forest with music they can relate to.

Anyhoo, Rich (who runs thedayafterthesabbath) has bigger plans and said that he felt that 60s garage comps have been "done to death".

To further my ramblings (my son wants the cpu and I keep writing just to piss him off), I felt that this statement - "done to death" - freaks me out a bit. Like what, on to the next fad?
I feel that the resurrection of 60s punk and psych is disappearing. It might get some more recognition if someone dared making a blog with the bestest and rockinest and swinginest and moodinest and crudinest tracks, but then we have this thicket of copyrights, old crazy people and FBI legislations to cut through.

Right now, we can only circle jerk with bohemian-grovian snobbery and vinyl fetishes, making it impossible for the new digital kids to muster up some interest.

Still, there is a bunch of great GREAT sites out there. We just need more.

 

[sylvain]

To further my ramblings (my son wants the cpu and I keep writing just to piss him off), I felt that this statement - "done to death" - freaks me out a bit. Like what, on to the next fad? I feel that the resurrection of 60s punk and psych is disappearing.

Sure it is disappearing. Just have a look at Voelkel's weekly update, and you'll note that it's been about 18-24 months that garage and psych are not anymore leading the "reissue" market. It's symptomatic. We're now living times of an intense late-60s / early 70s Acid-folk and prog rediscovery... and as a consequence, there's many new bands today doing their stuff in that vein.
I guess that it will take time before 60s garage becomes an inspiration again.

 

[axel]

I just came across this track on youtube and remembered Lee de Parade's thread. You probably know it. I think it's pretty good and as much heavy rock as it is garage. It even has a guitar break with a decent amount of mistakes. And lots of energy. Says it's from 1968:​

 

[Sancho Panza]

Maybe I'm waaaaay off-topic, but how about Stereo Shoestrings "On The Road South"...?

 

[Sancho Panza]

Maybe more "punk" now that I think about it.