Remains "Talkin' Bout You" 45 Epic 9777

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Does it even exist? I've never seen a copy for sale in 20 years collecting. None sold on eBay, ever. None listed at Popsike. No scan at Discogs. No label scan on the net at all that I can find. I actually don't doubt it exists, but where are the copies? :konfuzed:
 
Yes, I wonder what that means. Another unreleased 45 is the Electric Prunes "Shadows", but it definitely exists. Was the Remains 45 pressed, or just planned, I wonder. If it was pressed, does it exist in the Epic vaults? Or were the copies all destroyed? Did a copy escape? These and many other questions Remains unanswered.
 
Not that it makes much difference that the fact is I do not have or seen it.
 
I've posted my story on this before elsewhere, but to encapsulate:

I was at a record convention in Cranford, New Jersey. Started driving to it around 1987, so the time frame would be thereabouts.
I was toolin' thru rows of 45s, all alpha-order by group / performer. As no one was at this particular dealer's table, I started at "A" and made my way on thru the boxes. I was at mid-alphabet when a group of guys started from the other end. They looked to be mid 30s age (I often think it was a crew of bob Irwin's pals, maybe even him?) as I was lot younger. One dark haired guy pulls out a Richard & the Young Lions 45, and then goes "Wow, I need this one - The other guys were all trying to keep their excitement low-key. I looked over when the guy held it for inspection, it was the Remains "Say You're Sorry" / Talkin Bout You" 45, white label promo. Marked $20. After the guy paid for his 2 45s I aksed him if he would re-sell it to me for $40, and he laughed and said no.
Also, another collector pal who worked for Sony for decades told me the master ledger card for Epic 9777 shows the release was pressed as a promotional copy, but quickly recalled. It was probably issued by mistake. No manufacture amount is notated. I think there might be one in their archive.
 
It wasn't me as I probably would have sold it to you like I did with the other garage 45 I found there that you wanted.
 
Wow...same thing happened to me in NYC in 88 at a fair in some fancy hotel (Washington?). A dealer had all of their 45's, all of them promo's and one guy ahead of me pulled the Say You're Sorry 45 out. I remember being pissed off because I love SYS so much. I bought the other ones. All were priced at 8 bucks a piece. Bad memories :(
 
The only output I know of is the flexi disc that came with the Larm magazine in 84 or so.
 
All I know is that on separate occasions there were two Long Island dealers one of them having 2 copies of the Magic Mushrooms' l'm Gone (white label) and the other dealer selling a stock mint copy for a tenner.
There was also a guy selling a stack of the Second Summers Sad Vibrations. He also had a 33 and a 45 inch acetate of said 45. I did not bother to interrogate him, stupid me :icon_rolleyes:
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has anybody ever asked the remains themselves?

another thing re: remains:

i recall an intresting article from a 1965/66? mag, but i can't locate it. as far as i remember, the gist was:

after recording their first record, the remains opted for a change of style for their second album. some of the contributing factors was, of all things, allen ginsberg. now i can't remember if barry met him or if he was only influenced by ginsberg or if they even wrote together, but there was a connection.

i think i remember that barry stated that new cuts for the record had already been recorded in this "new style". ginsberg by then was heavily into indian culture, so i guess that, in case these recordings exist, they would be of a "raga" type music á la "8 miles high".

as i said, i don't have that article at hand but i have it somewhere.

have those recordings that barry claimed were done OR were about to be done ever been discussed?
 
The Barry and the Remains cd inner notes make no mention of the Talkin' About You 45. In Barry's own words.
Record companies were and are prone to play tricks upon their artists.


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