Seeds plastic ps
- Thread starter Jim
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Mistake to put it in a plastic poly sleeve. Chemicals in them eventually destroy whatever is put inside them.
All my other 45's and picture sleeves housed in poly sleeves are OK, maybe a chemical reaction between the two plastics?
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Poly sleeves have chemicals that break down over time
The wax can turn hazy and be ruined as heard on playback. Best thing you can do is get rid of all poly sleeves. Better to store them without unless you want to pay for Mylar archival quality sleeves. I use Mylar sleeves for picture sleeves.
The wax can turn hazy and be ruined as heard on playback. Best thing you can do is get rid of all poly sleeves. Better to store them without unless you want to pay for Mylar archival quality sleeves. I use Mylar sleeves for picture sleeves.
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I have a45 that was stored in a deceased friend's collection in a poly sleeve. Blue wax is now mottled hazy black wax. Record plays terrible. Surface noise all the way thru. I sold that 45 to him in 1990 was mint minus as well.
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- Apr 12, 2011
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- Sydney, Australia
Polypropylene seems to be ok, at least as an outer sleeve for 45s first stored in paper and cardboard sleeves. I've been using them for over 20 years with no haze developed on any clean 45s. PVC is another matter completely. That stuff is total poison.
I have noticed haze develop on 45s that have NEVER been cleaned. There is a kind of greasy film on some of those, which is normally not a problem because it cleans off 100% easily, usually leaving shiny mint vinyl. But very occasionally the greasy film has been known to leave a permanent hazy stain after cleaning. A large number of 45s purchased on eBay arrive with traces of mould on them, when inspected with a strong magnifier. I clean every 45 as soon as I get it, both sides. Mould feasts upon fingerprints if given half a chance. I have a dehumidifier in my record bunker. The amount of water that it pulls out of the air in any location is a real eye-opener. Half a bucket per day from an average sized room, all year round. Mould can not survive in dehumidified air.
I have noticed haze develop on 45s that have NEVER been cleaned. There is a kind of greasy film on some of those, which is normally not a problem because it cleans off 100% easily, usually leaving shiny mint vinyl. But very occasionally the greasy film has been known to leave a permanent hazy stain after cleaning. A large number of 45s purchased on eBay arrive with traces of mould on them, when inspected with a strong magnifier. I clean every 45 as soon as I get it, both sides. Mould feasts upon fingerprints if given half a chance. I have a dehumidifier in my record bunker. The amount of water that it pulls out of the air in any location is a real eye-opener. Half a bucket per day from an average sized room, all year round. Mould can not survive in dehumidified air.
Sebastian
Ikon Class
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- Apr 29, 2011
Those PVC sleeves with serrated edge are disastrous. I once had to turn down buying a great 1000+ item punk/powerpop 45 collection due to the records having been stored in PVC sleeves and most 45's were ruined/played with constant hiss.
The platsic lining that UK Polygram/Polydor/Vertigo/related used for their LP inner sleeves during the 60s/70s is also poison, ruins the vinyl.
The platsic lining that UK Polygram/Polydor/Vertigo/related used for their LP inner sleeves during the 60s/70s is also poison, ruins the vinyl.
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- Sydney, Australia
It's the duty of every record collector to destroy every PVC sleeve left on earth. With fire.
soundog III
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- Apr 24, 2011
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- New York
For PS 45's I use "Japanese" rice paper inner bags and resealable mylar outer bags. With the 45 removed form the sleeve, natch.
After discovering a few hazy 45's I decided to get rid of all the poly sleeves. Only managed to do 20% of my collection, this will take me a few days, however good riddance
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- Hudson Valley, NY
Isn't rice paper just another kind of plastic? Which kind is it?
https://www.grafixplastics.com/grafix-plastics/plastic-film-plastic-sheet-faq/mylar_what/
This is what a quick search on mylar brought up, still polyethylene involved.
As for rice paper there are various definitions but it seems to be a harmless kind of paper.
To avoid further problems or paranoia about hazing I now store my 45's in their original sleeves and in case of a seamless picture sleeve I insert a plain white sleeve to house the vinyl in.
This is what a quick search on mylar brought up, still polyethylene involved.
As for rice paper there are various definitions but it seems to be a harmless kind of paper.
To avoid further problems or paranoia about hazing I now store my 45's in their original sleeves and in case of a seamless picture sleeve I insert a plain white sleeve to house the vinyl in.
