STB Flavored FLACS

bosshoss

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Having finished the Bunker Upheaval, and due to a project which required re-establishing the bunker FLAC transfer system (now STB turbocharged), I have started doing some FLAC transfers. The setup is shown below, using the Thales Statement arm mounted on the Kuzma turntable. This is a Lyra stereo cartridge, which i hardly used since I bought it a few years ago. I made duplicates of the transfers using the Kuzma 4-Point arm/Lyra Etna mono cartridge, and with the Thales Statement arm/Lyra Etna (low output) stereo cartridge. I judged the Thales/Lyra Etna low-output stereo combo to be equal or better than the mono setup. But that's after just one session. As I go along, that may change.

I'm looking for suggestions as to what should be transferred in the next week or so. Meanwhile, I'll just do a few things that arrived at the bunker last year.

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Mark, that interesting set-up makes me a wee bit greedy :)

Here are my requests - some songs I'm became curious about during my travels thru the scans:

South Hampton Story - She Was There
Underbridge Six - It's A Lie
Warlocks - Secret Agent Man
We The People - Point Panic
Wiggs Of 1666 – Never
Xciters - And I Knew You Were Mine
 
Mark, that interesting set-up makes me a wee bit greedy :)

Here are my requests - some songs I'm became curious about during my travels thru the scans:

South Hampton Story - She Was There
Underbridge Six - It's A Lie
Warlocks - Secret Agent Man
We The People - Point Panic
Wiggs Of 1666 – Never
Xciters - And I Knew You Were Mine

Some "one out of 10" scores on the TBM garageometer in this list. But I will look at them anyway (for any not issued legitimately from mastertapes)
 
Glad to see that you have revived your mastering system , it will be interesting to hear what the STB can add to it ! I'm kinda surprised that the stereo cartridge compares so well , or is it the Thales arm that makes the difference ? About the transfers - I'm very interested in the "few things" that arrived in the bunker last year , especially the acetates .
 
Glad to see that you have revived your mastering system , it will be interesting to hear what the STB can add to it ! I'm kinda surprised that the stereo cartridge compares so well , or is it the Thales arm that makes the difference ? About the transfers - I'm very interested in the "few things" that arrived in the bunker last year , especially the acetates .

STB adds realism. It improves everything, you could say I suppose. But the main benefit is in the total package of subtle detail, which lets you imagine the music is real, not reproduced, if your mind is relaxed and trained to listen that way. Even if the flacs contain STB detail, most of these details will not be audible when played on a system which has not been treated with STB.

The Kuzma arm has extensive STB coverage of the entire arm tube and housing, but the Thales has none. The Thales can not be treated that way because the two arms which control the parallel tracking of the cartridge must be free to move (see photos). However, I have treated the entire length of the Thales phono cable with the latest and greatest (removable) STB tape, whereas the Kuzma cable is painted with a much weaker earlier pre-STB compound that can't be easily removed. The Kuzma has the Lyra mono (higher outoput) cartridge but the Thales has the Lyra SL super low-output version, which has better detail. With the STB treatment the low output is not a problem, because the noise floor for the entire systemis incredibly low. I recently supplied transfers of a few hard to find 45s (supplied both Kuzma mono and Thales stereo versions) to Alec P who has excellent equipment, and a high degree of technical knowledge and ability. After comparing both he chose the Thales stereo transfers, and mixed one channel down to mono. I decided to leave the Thales installed, since it gives the ability to discard one channel if it is weaker than the other. The drop in output of the stereo cartridge vs mono is insignificant considering the low STB noise floor. The Kuzma arm is still probably as good as the Thales, and possibly slightly better in the bass, all other things being equal. But the other things are far from equal!

The two best acetates I received last year (Groop and Jackals) can not be uploaded, because both were sold to me with the understanding that I would supply the previous owners with transfers which will be used for legitimate 45 reissues licensed from the bands if possible. However there is the Apollos Apaches acetate, which I will definitely upload.

Photo showing the Thales tonearm. The two halves of the arm have to be free to move back and forward as the arm travels across the record, so no STB can be applied to the arm tubes. The second photo shows the Lyra stereo Etna mounted in the Thales headshell.

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Here's a test file. It's one I chose for it's nice frequency balance, so not all FLACs are going to sound so great. But I have to say I'm very, very happy with the transfers coming off the Kuznma/Thales/Lyra/Moon system. It's a 16 bit WAV file. I don't think 24 bit makes much difference compared to the benefits of STB and the high quality gear used in the analog transfer process. I listened for a 16/24 bit difference, and couldn't hear any at all.

With these test files, they won't stay up for long so grab 'em quickly please, and I really do appreciate any info regarding recent or upcoming reissues. The main downloads and requests will be available in bunker86 or some other private location to be advised.



As always, no eq or dynamics processing of any kind on any of these transfers. With decent headphones or speakers you hear exactly what I hear coming off the turntable (minus the worst clicks and pops).
 
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Some songs I’d love to hear via the STB turbocharged system:

Escapades - I Tell No Lies
Grifs - Catch a Ride
Sincerely Mindfield - Both sides!
Gary & the Eastmen - I Love You

Also, I understand if it is off limits but I’d love to hear the Apollos Apaches unreleased acetate version of “Cry Me a Lie.” :pray:
 
Great!

These 3 tracks are on the CD V.A. compilation (I mostly collect compilations) Quagmire Volume 3 with awful sound. Would love to hear the tracks in great sound.

Damascans - Go 'Way Girl
Ebb Tides - My Baby's Gone
Jason And The Argonauts - I Don't Need Anything
 
Below are the first 8 flac requests. These are the last which will appear here, the rest will be in bunker86, so please send me a password request by clicking "like" on this here post if you would like to be a member of the new bunker86.

The purpose of bunker86 is to provide quality transfers to trusted members, of tracks that are NOT already available in high quality sound.
 
I see a disturbing amount of silver on that laptop!

Yeah! There's a lot more I could do to the transfer system. Currently I'm relying on the extensive power supply treatments, plus there's plenty of STB on the system power cords etc., that can't be seen in the photo. The turntable mat is treated with 2 coats of nuclear STB on each side, which helps a lot. The proximity of the mat to the arm and cartridge means they don't really need to be treated (and they can't be unfortunately)