tbm worthy?

[vinyl01]

https://soundcloud.com/vinyl01/young-at-heart-know-love-four-ways-ltd1005b

 

[jeffs11375]

I've always liked the poppier side of 60s garage. I'm not sure how the TBM folks would rate it but to me this is definitely comp worthy.

 

[vinyl01]

Thanks jeffs11375, You would probably like the other side too.

 

[MopTopMike]

I like it, Ill add it to the new book, but I don't think it will rate very high....

The guy who put out this 45 (Pavia) was also involved with a release by the Forways "Confusion" (Baytown label) which is a similar sounding pop disc. sorta like a 5 cent Phil Spector wall of sound production, lots of reverb / echo, the whole group singing in unison. Definitely has the NYC local street doo-wop / Four Seasons type vibe melded for a pop hit sound. Makes sense, as Pavia was based out on Long Island.

 

[vinyl01]

Thanks MTM, I could not find anything on them, so put it here. Again, thanks for the info and personal remarks. I would not rate it very high either, but it is something unusual which is always good to hear and to know what's else is out there.

 

[vinyl01]

Here is the other side to listen to since you are going to add it to the next book.

https://soundcloud.com/vinyl01/young-at-heart-things-we-did-last-summer-four-ways-ltd1005a

 

[jeffs11375]

You're right - I like both sides. Any chance you could put up mp3's or even flacs?

 

[vinyl01]

You listened to the mp3s and no flacs.

 

[Monster Mike]

How about this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLIepJjiljM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[MopTopMike]

It's marginally better than the A side, which isn't saying much.
Poor man's Del Shannon.
I saw a few copies of this sell for a lot of money, must be for the rarity and the fact that it falls in the Fenton family of Michigan releases. certainly not for the sonic quality.

Needs a guitar break. Desperately.
The chicks singing background 'oohs' totally ruin the song.
Maybe a 2 rating, more like 1 for me. Far better categorized as a teener, the category for teen idol types and their wanna-be's.

I think using horns to replace the chicks would've made for a much better effort.

 

[Heitkotter77]

Mike, question for you. Did you like the song in general, regardless of if it's garage or not?

 

[MopTopMike]

No, I don't like the song / 45. Does not matter if you tag it garage, teen, rock & roll, psych, mod spin....

If I were to add this single to TBM, I'd have to then go back and add 100s more that mirror this type of sound.
more work I do not want or need.

 

[Monster Mike]

Ok, nevertheless I do love both sides.
I do agree about the backing vocals as i would have preferred horns myself.
My friend tracked down the singer and producer. The backing band was a local combo from a nearby high school that he hired for the session, but he couldn't remember the groups name. Fitting as they were dubbed "The I Can't Say's". The group may have been under contract. I'll try to find out further...

 

[Heitkotter77]

No, I don't like the song / 45. Does not matter if you tag it garage, teen, rock & roll, psych, mod spin....

Was just curious since you did rate it. I was curious if that was a TBM rating (since does seem to be the gist of this thread - TBM worthy?) or a general rating. Obviously, it was the latter
I did like it, including the backing vocals (and would not have cared for horns instead), though I thought the A-side was bordering on wretchedness.

 

[MopTopMike]

Yeah, it is definitely a borderline record at beast.
I'd never play it! I rejected it for TBM when I came across the songs last year.

Speaking of TBM worthy 45s: I saw the post on another forum where someone scored a copy of the Freedom V 45 (pre birmingham Sunday crew from Nevada).
Can anyone post both sides, or send them to me for ratings? That's one disc i had only titles and the group name documented - no label number or song titles, which is why it didn't make it into TBM. No one I know has this 45 in their collection.

 

[Heitkotter77]

Yeah, it is definitely a borderline record at beast.
I'd never play it! I rejected it for TBM when I came across the songs last year.

Speaking of TBM worthy 45s: I saw the post on another forum where someone scored a copy of the Freedom V 45 (pre birmingham Sunday crew from Nevada).
Can anyone post both sides, or send them to me for ratings? That's one disc i had only titles and the group name documented - no label number or song titles, which is why it didn't make it into TBM. No one I know has this 45 in their collection.

I know the forum you mean. I'll PM the guy and explain this and see if he'll forward me sound files.

 

[MopTopMike]

O.K, thanks. I meant to type that I only had the group name and one song title, not both.

Were both sides issued on the Birmingham Sunday compilation CD?

 

[greenfuzz]

O.K, thanks. I meant to type that I only had the group name and one song title, not both. Were both sides issued on the Birmingham Sunday compilation CD?

Only the political campaign song--'It's Gotta Be Grant'-- is included on the CD. I can email you that side if you'd like.

 

[Heitkotter77]

Sent PM; let you know when I hear back.

Only 'Gotta Be Grant' is on the CD.

 

[buckeyebeat]

I don't care for the Jack Wood record either. I passed on a copy for $100 a while ago. The B side is a little better, but it's not a TBM record. If people want to play half assed crap like JW at a 'soul' 'mod' dance night, go for the real deal teener soul like Gene Pitney, or these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maUfBH-B4UU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvqYaj9CKGc