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MopTopMike said:
I played my Pa Go Go and vinyl East Coast pressing of Cameo 428...both versions of "Midnight Hour" are exact. No differences.
And of course, "96 Tears" is full length on Pa Go Go, but has the early fadeout, time is also shown as 2:38
The deadwax has a Bell Sound raised relief stamp, and the EY letters hand-etched. There is also another tiny imprint stamp, but it is difficult to decipher...3 M's, perhaps?
Bell Sound in NYC then mastered and created stampers of both songs for the pressing plant.
Credit on Pa Go Go is Rudy Martinez, both songs as pictured above. The Cameo vinyl pressing credits the Mysterians for both songs. Ed Arguello is also noted.
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Wow, thanks for checking (and proving me wrong!). I will now start picking up copies of the single on Cameo hoping to find one that plays the alternate version.
 
I have over a dozen copies and only 1 shows a time of 2:53, but just recorded it and it's only about 2:42. The rest are 2:38. None have the three letter itched. Most if not all were bell sound stamped.
 
I've got this one:
https://www.discogs.com/release/6263766--Question-Mark-The-Mysterians-96-Tears
A) 2:56
B) 2:23 "lived by the railroad track..."

this one:
https://www.discogs.com/release/18585733--The-Mysterians-96-Tears
A) 2:40
B) 2:35 "l̶i̶v̶e̶d̶ ̶ by the railroad track..." (△62831-X)

this one:
https://www.discogs.com/release/3415502--The-Mysterians-96-Tears
A) 2:40
B) 2:24 "lived by the railroad track..." (△63152-X)

and this one:
https://www.discogs.com/release/3714970--Question-Mark-The-Mysterians-96-Tears
A) 2:40
B) 2:24 "lived by the railroad track..."

**Based on the Monarch sequence, the 2:35 version (△62831) of "Midnite Hour" was cut/pressed before the more common 2:24 version (△63152-X).
 
Dominic said:
I've got this one:
https://www.discogs.com/release/6263766--Question-Mark-The-Mysterians-96-Tears
A) 2:56
B) 2:23 "lived by the railroad track..."

this one:
https://www.discogs.com/release/18585733--The-Mysterians-96-Tears
A) 2:40
B) 2:35 "l̶i̶v̶e̶d̶ ̶ by the railroad track..." (△62831-X)

this one:
https://www.discogs.com/release/3415502--The-Mysterians-96-Tears
A) 2:40
B) 2:24 "lived by the railroad track..." (△63152-X)

and this one:
https://www.discogs.com/release/3714970--Question-Mark-The-Mysterians-96-Tears
A) 2:40
B) 2:24 "lived by the railroad track..."

**Based on the Monarch sequence, the 2:35 version (△62831) of "Midnite Hour" was cut/pressed before the more common 2:24 version (△63152-X).
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Thanks for all this work!
 
Hey all,

I've completed latest update for the A to Z TBM pdf file. The old one has been deleted.
This file will be the source until a new update is completed, at least 6 months from now if not longer.

Adobe has now made it difficult to create a free pdf file and allow it as 'read-only. In order to do things as before this change, Adobe wants a user to pay a subscription, cheapest is $21 a month, for my use/needs it is $39 a month. This caused some problems which i'm trying to fix.
I was messing with the code to fix things and for some reason, the links on the webpage for the A to Z file, TBM radio and e-mail contact are not working.
All links open as they should in a new window, but load the website homepage.
So, until I have time to troubleshoot, I will e-mail the direct link for downloading to anyone who wants the file.
Only recommended for laptops, i-pads, etc. Smartphone is not recommended due to the large file size (526 pages).

Do not PM your request or post it in this thread. Keep this thread for your comments, suggestions, etc.

Send me an e-mail here to request the A to Z pdf:

tbm radio email

Thanks!
 
MickWoo said:
Has anyone else had difficulty accessing the new version of the TBM updated A-Z from the November 25 blog? When I click the link it just takes me back to the blog homepage. Can anyone help? Thanks.
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If you read MopTopMike's post directly above your post, you will get the answer you need.
 
Regarding Stan Meredith & The Shadows, these guys may have been from the Warren/Benton County, Indiana area rather than Illinois. The Illinois address associated with the label is only a short distance from the state line.

Also, on further reflection, the August 1965 date on the label might be the date the label was formed, rather than a release date for this record.
 
I'm working on the Generation Gap from Phoenix, AZ (of "Too Far Gone") and I realize the 1967 single "And I Love Her"/"Let There Be Drum" by a different Tucson band with the same name is listed as the same band in the pdf
As a matter of fact The Generation Gap from Phoenix, AZ were still playing as the Gage Garnier Five when recording "He'll Make A Fool Out Of You" around Jan 1968
I'm writing an article for my site on that band that will prove my point if needed
 
While I'm at it, TBM lists the release date of "Too Far Gone" as March but the press presented the single as "released this month" in May 2. In addition, the band kept playing as the Gage Garnier Five until at least April and the Generation Gap name was still on hold by May 19 as the band asked for suggestions for a better name (eventually just keeping the Generation Gap). They did spin the single on May 2 at their usual club so pressing was probably April. My guess is that producer Frank Kavelin published the tracks and proposed them to bigger labels in LA who refused it, leading to the self-release of the songs much after the January recording but I'd appreciate any additional info if you have some
 
Al.Burnett1966 said:
I'm working on the Generation Gap from Phoenix, AZ (of "Too Far Gone") and I realize the 1967 single "And I Love Her"/"Let There Be Drum" by a different Tucson band with the same name is listed as the same band in the pdf
As a matter of fact The Generation Gap from Phoenix, AZ were still playing as the Gage Garnier Five when recording "He'll Make A Fool Out Of You" around Jan 1968
I'm writing an article for my site on that band that will prove my point if needed
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I wrote this mini bio a few years back:

Phoenix AZ USA 1968. Excellent pop! And big thanks to Frank Kavelin for setting the record straight about this combo. The Cali based producer/arranger Kavelin (son of legendary musician and record exec Al Kavelin) travelled to Phoenix to get these lads on tape in '68 because his mate from Beverly Hills, Glenn Rosner, had moved there and joined this band and they'd worked up a pretty good reputation on their turf.

There was a Tucson kiddie combo named Generation Gap (one instro record with a Beatles and a Sandy Nelson cover) active at the same time and they have been lumped with this lot in several discos, but they're not the same. That was confusing for a while

Band included: Greg Aitken, John Bryant, Charlie Moss, "Gage Garnier" AKA Glenn Rosner
 
Al.Burnett1966 said:
While I'm at it, TBM lists the release date of "Too Far Gone" as March but the press presented the single as "released this month" in May 2. In addition, the band kept playing as the Gage Garnier Five until at least April and the Generation Gap name was still on hold by May 19 as the band asked for suggestions for a better name (eventually just keeping the Generation Gap). They did spin the single on May 2 at their usual club so pressing was probably April. My guess is that producer Frank Kavelin published the tracks and proposed them to bigger labels in LA who refused it, leading to the self-release of the songs much after the January recording but I'd appreciate any additional info if you have some
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That's why we continue working to compile and review information for future on-line updates.
Release dates are extrapolated from copyright filings and (for this 45) Monarch / Allied shared master numbers. Delta 70325 dates to late March 1968.
We always refer to the earliest possible date whenever verified documentation is unavailable (such as paperwork that proofs such calendar dates).
 
mikael said:
I wrote this mini bio a few years back:

Phoenix AZ USA 1968. Excellent pop! And big thanks to Frank Kavelin for setting the record straight about this combo. The Cali based producer/arranger Kavelin (son of legendary musician and record exec Al Kavelin) travelled to Phoenix to get these lads on tape in '68 because his mate from Beverly Hills, Glenn Rosner, had moved there and joined this band and they'd worked up a pretty good reputation on their turf.

There was a Tucson kiddie combo named Generation Gap (one instro record with a Beatles and a Sandy Nelson cover) active at the same time and they have been lumped with this lot in several discos, but they're not the same. That was confusing for a while

Band included: Greg Aitken, John Bryant, Charlie Moss, "Gage Garnier" AKA Glenn Rosner
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Thanks! Funny, actually it was your post that first introduced me to the song a few years back. I found a good quantity of articles and a couple of pics of the band I think you'll be happy to see!
 
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