Unknown PNW Psych Garage 45

[Outside_Lookin_in]

Unfortunately the days of good comps are severely flagging. So much still to be reissued (properly), and so little being done about it, and I'm including the out of print stuff which needs to be repressed, but isn't being.

 

[13th Floor Garage]

As a person from (sort of) "both sides", I'd like to chime in. My only contribution was a lucky score for ten cents of the song "Look Out For Number One" featured on G-45 Unwaxed CD. I was very happy that I was able to "give back" to a community that has been so generous.

There's probably others that were not so lucky to be at the right place and right time. I'm sure that those that weren't able to contribute anything (and mine isn't very much by comparison) sure feel grateful for those that have been so generous.

As Mikal pointed out. What good (although I'm not claiming that my find was some holey grail) would it be ... if I was the only one to have heard it?

I understand that it is probably frustrating when someone profits from anothers generosity. I get that. To those that are frustrated about that... I ask one question. Does the joy you bring others (such as myself that do not profit) ... mean less than some opportunist profiteer? Does the frustration of some profiteer override the benefit of sharing with fellow enthusiast?

 

[MopTopMike]

I'm not talking about profit.
i am talking about common decency and respect for others that should be above satisfying your own ego to feel important.

My point - people who have some weakness from their upbringing that perpetually begs for validation. Such inadequacy causes their "I'll do what I want and tough s**t to you all" attitude. Is it REALLY about sharing, or, is it the latter? I tend to think so. This is the modern day way to feel self-important in the eyes and minds of like-minded individuals who share the same passions.

I didn't check the youtube link for the songs that Rich posted here, but it is certain that someone who is a member of G45 'helped himself' to go ahead and upload the songs. I'm fine with circulating songs if the person who is the source gives the OK to do so. The respectful thing would have been to ask Rich directly before doing so. But no. 80% of the 60s garage / psych songs on youtube are taken from other people who originally posted the songs elsewhere - on blogs, websites, and private shared sites. And you can bet without getting permission from the source.

 

[Outside_Lookin_in]

... or even acknowledgement

 

[Lee de Parade]

Stepping into this mist of paranoia makes me a little paranoid too.

I know that I am no interested in any ego-boost when I post an mp3 comp on my blog.
I know Mikael only wish to further rare stuff.

Everything is for the music, man.

Then again, we never had an ego in the beginning. We’re not household names.
So to me it sounds like you are projecting your own motivations.
And that is ok MTM, if you do stuff to boost your ego. I don’t hold it against you.
But I firking don’t.
Accolades? Ego? Acknowledgement?
You really can’t get that the music is the star here?

But maybe you are not talking about me. As I said, all this got me a lil paranoid.

 

[mikael]

I'm only motivated by one thing: Getting people to hear stuff they never would come across
otherwise (no, It was not me who posted Rich's song). I'm a fanboy, ego does not exist with me.
If I come across unheard tunes or unseen pictures, I immidiately share them here. I've posted
a lot of unseen photos and bios here that I've gotten straight from the source.

 

[greenfuzz]

I’m on both sides of the fence. One example is I posted the Paragons ‘Abba’ appearance on THE VILLAGE SQUARE to a blog I had at the time to share with others and within a day somebody grabbed it and reposted it to YouTube under his own name without listing the source. To MTM’s point, if that’s not somebody trying to satisfy his own ego, then what is? What purpose did it serve since it was already available for all to see? But I’m all about sharing rarities, as I did for 14 years on 60sgaragebands.com. Everybody should get to see or hear what is of interest to him or her.

 

[MopTopMike]

Hey, if you are all about sharing and have no ego (um, yeah.. right),
Then why don't you post WHERE YOU GOT THE SONG / LABEL SCAN from?
Is it really that much of a pain in the ass for anyone to type and post :
Clips sourced from the collection of BossHoss/ Mark Taylor and we thank him for his permission

I see NO MENTION of this on those recent months posted youtube clips.
But perhaps that is because the person was not supposed to do so in the first place based upon an agreement.

If you can't bother to note a thank you and reference, then you reek of self-aggrandizement.
End of story, I'm done.

 

[Lee de Parade]

In my case that’s easy. I don’t want to out the source to “protect” the source.
I’ve always indicated that I’m not the one making the awesome rips and nodded towards the direction of Gyro’s, Rich’s and “awesome Australian collectors” to show where the true culture heroism lies.

And yeah, I am just an anonymous fanboy just like Mikael.
If you think I do shit to boost my ego, then I might understand why you get so upset.

But since I don’t, you are free to chill out.

 

[mikael]

If you can't bother to note a thank you and reference,.

Hey Mikey, you did not credit me in TBM like you promised.
Plus that I spent six months collecting info on reissues for you (like you especially
asked me to do) You did not use that but I didn't even get as much as a thank you.
So go easy with the hypocrisy here.

PS. It was NOT wise to namedrop like you did above.

 

[michaelvee]

I have no problem with Rich or anyone else sharing cool unknown tracks with people, (I actually commend him/them) And if it sat on Youtube forever, that's cool. It's the guys who run around the net looking for this unreleased stuff and putting together comps with crappy quality and no liner notes that piss me off. If you put out comps yourself and knew how much time went into them to do it right, you would know what I'm talking about.

crappy audio quality? depenes on the quality of the track posted , no liner notes? that pisses me off, too....

 

[Lewis]

I have mixed feelings. I used to help out supplying (for free) a low level UK reissue label with stuff and they made great looking/sounding comps. I made a tape for someone with stuff destined for that label (which I told him) and he put out a CDR comp using that tape. I never actually got any credit on the reissue label comps, so I wasn't bothered about no mention, but it meant the songs sort of came out, in terrible quality, making a good reissue of those tracks much less likely, as the CDR was quite widely sold and the label then felt nobody would pay for the same songs in slightly better sound with a nice sleeve. That was the sad part really, apart from trusting someone who decided to profit instead of respecting that trust. In general though, I am all for sharing with anyone who wants to hear.

 

[michaelvee]

 

[Outside_Lookin_in]

Are you using invisible ink?

 

[Rythmn Boy]

Just rub some lemon juice on the screen and all will be revealed

 

[beccabear67]

I had some (I thought) fairly run-of-the-mill stuff I transferred from vinyl and shared turn up on a CD. I only found out because I bought a copy and recognized a particular pop and crackle here and there. I thought I would be getting a much better upgrade, as happened on some other occasions, and I just got my own transfers back mostly (only worse because my own copies were from wavs and the CD being sold was from mp3s). Live and burn I suppose. David Crosby song flashback time.

I'm pretty happy actually I didn't get 'credit' as I can only imagine it would lead to trouble. Some blog that shares entire albums used my review of a CD (which I bought directly from the artists) on their give away post with my name included and it still really bothers me that any Quatro sister would think I had anything to do with that, grrr! It really made me not want to write stuff anymore, and the above bootleg CD made me not want to share my vinyl transfers except very very carefully.

 

[michaelvee]

I have no problem with Rich or anyone else sharing cool unknown tracks with people, (I actually commend him/them) And if it sat on Youtube forever, that's cool. It's the guys who run around the net looking for this unreleased stuff and putting together comps with crappy quality and no liner notes that piss me off. If you put out comps yourself and knew how much time went into them to do it right, you would know what I'm talking about.