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Yeah! Its current bitrate is only 2 bits per second.
Welcome to G45 AI....for those who dare....
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Sounds like Joan Jett to me.
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It's pretty obvious that Suno is currently not capable of understanding 60s garage music, as it consistently confuses it with other genres. I will keep checking regularly, and if it improves I will post an example here.
Hicksville Hogwash
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Damn. That's not bad at all.
Would AI "understand" feelings? Rage? Or hormonal teenage moodiness?
Damn. That's not bad at all.
Would AI "understand" feelings? Rage? Or hormonal teenage moodiness?
jeffs11375
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I have a question and I am guessing that if anyone knows the answer, it will be one of you.
In my quest to have at my fingertips, besides 60s garage, every cool Rock and Roll, Doo Wop, Rockabilly, R&B and Soul record, I have accumulated a large collection of MP3's (and I apologize if the mere mention of that M-word violates the no offensive behavior request), many of which are from rather dubious sources and/or sloppily created and quite frankly sound like crap.
I have friends with careers in machine learning and I have seen examples of a blurry photograph being re-created to vastly improve their quality. And I understand that in order to do this, it requires a very large library of images that can be used to re-create that photo.
Is there any similar thing as regards to sound? It would be totally amazing if there were.
In my quest to have at my fingertips, besides 60s garage, every cool Rock and Roll, Doo Wop, Rockabilly, R&B and Soul record, I have accumulated a large collection of MP3's (and I apologize if the mere mention of that M-word violates the no offensive behavior request), many of which are from rather dubious sources and/or sloppily created and quite frankly sound like crap.
I have friends with careers in machine learning and I have seen examples of a blurry photograph being re-created to vastly improve their quality. And I understand that in order to do this, it requires a very large library of images that can be used to re-create that photo.
Is there any similar thing as regards to sound? It would be totally amazing if there were.
jeffs11375
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I can't say that I disagree. AI scares me.
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I actually do disagree with Nick. Because he is advocating stamping out a form of creativity that might give pleasure to some. It would be the same as if Rembrandt had tried to stamp out photography on the grounds that the camera did all the work, or that photography could be dangerous in the wrong hands, or that he simply didn't like photographs. Or the fear that widespread photography would adversely affect the value of his paintings...
Outside_Lookin_in
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Photography IS dangerous in the wrong hands! 
Outside_Lookin_in
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What is really needed is an AI program which can put the likes of Pandora, Spotify, and Apple Music to rest. All three are supposed to suggest songs you might like based on the songs you 'like'. Spotify and Apple Music fail miserably for me with results which are worse than random. It's as if they're trying their best to find songs they think I'll hate! Pandora was slightly better than random, but stopped working for me in any case.
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This is an attempt at 60s garage style via state-of-the-art AI music generator UDIO
I made up the title and the lyrics
I fed them into UDIO, which is currently free to use
UDIO then output 4 different variations
I cut and pasted parts of the 4 variations to make a complete short song
Although I had fun making it, it's not '60s garage and I understand the possible downsides which are obvious.
I don't know what to do about that. But given my personality, ignoring it isn't an option for me.
I made up the title and the lyrics
I fed them into UDIO, which is currently free to use
UDIO then output 4 different variations
I cut and pasted parts of the 4 variations to make a complete short song
Although I had fun making it, it's not '60s garage and I understand the possible downsides which are obvious.
I don't know what to do about that. But given my personality, ignoring it isn't an option for me.
Outside_Lookin_in
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You really need to spring this on people without hinting at its source; knowing its origin loads the evaluator with preconceptions which inevitably colours his judgement. (Is it available on CD yet? )
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Oh no not yet. First I have to cut an acetate and list it on eBay with a minimum bid of several thousand $$$. Only then will I press a large batch of vinyl 45s, and finally I'll license it to Rhino for their next CD box set ("Bots of Nuggets").(Is it available on CD yet?
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Kinda reminds me of the early Black Lips. Would not fool me as a 60s recording.
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I would not expect it to pass the MTM Test of TBM Authenticity. If that ever happens (hopefully never), it will be a dark day many years from today.
But I don't think someone with less experience would necessarily have to be labeled a fool if they were caught off guard and deceived by something like this in the future. It could definitely happen.
If someone used AI to make an acetate of a fake 60s tune, they could sell it on eBay with no worries about fraud or refunds, as long as they made no particular claims about what it was. They could plead ignorance and just call it an acetate from their collection, no date or any other info given. Buyer beware. It's more likely to happen in soul collector circles than garage, I think it's almost inevitable.
Outside_Lookin_in
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No they couldn't - to pass off an AI tune as an acetate or from an acetate would constitute fraud. It would also be a fraudulent misrepresentation of its date of recording.
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I don't know about that. Acetates and lathe cut record services are still used today. You can order them here.
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Small Run Vinyl - Custom Vinyl Records
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You could not be accused of fraud over a music style if it wasn't a copy of someone else's work, and you made no claim as to the style or recording date. It's just music, the style doesn't matter. It would be extremely unethical, but not fraud and not illegal.
The same would apply if you sold an original design poster you made using AI or Photoshop. You would not be obliged to say how it was created. Fraud would apply only if you made false or deceptive claims. I suppose eBay could ban you if they felt like it, if the sale violated their terms of service.
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Mr.Segment
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Bear in mind I was listening to this through a crappy USB speakerphone at work...but that was pretty impressive! The drummer is obviously both deaf from the over use of cymbals and on speed, but closing in on acid punk this is 
Outside_Lookin_in
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Lacks direction, but be improved with some structure.
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Sebastian
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That's pretty damn impressive. Frightening really! Was this result achieved with a series of different prompts?
