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Sebastian said:
On a similar note I got this from Australian label Teensville just the other day. Couldn't really believe it first as they're in the business of reissuing obscure teen, sunshine-pop etc. stuff. It kind of muddies the water.

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Yeah. It's easy to get it to churn out pop, and in good quality because there are millions of examples for it to feed off. It's quite a bit harder to get it to do 60s garage. It can do it, but the quality is very bad, and I think it prefers pop, haha.

The lyrics for the song I posted were written by ChatGPT 4o, but I modified them drastically, because ChatGPT is very conservative and not at all acid punk, haha. Here's what it actually wrote and how I changed it. I originally called it "I Licked My Mind" but changed it later.

I said :
"Please write a song with 3 verses and a chorus, about a man relating a psychedelic experience called 'I licked my mind'"

ChatGPT wrote :
Verse 1:
I was walking through the valley of dreams,
Where the rivers flowed in technicolor streams,
The sky was melting into shades of gold,
every whisper had a story to be told.

I found a doorway made of swirling light,
Stepped inside and took a fearless flight,
The stars were singing in a cosmic choir,
And every note ignited my desire.

Chorus:
I licked my mind and tasted the divine,
Colors and sounds danced on the line,
Reality twisted in a kaleidoscope spin,
And I lost myself to the world within.

So I changed those lyrics to:

Verse 1:
I was walking through the valley of creeps,
Where the rivers flowed in psychedelic streams,
The sky was melting into shades of gold,
And every whisper had a living soul

I found a doorway made of swirling light,
Stepped inside and saw a fearful sight,
The stars were spinning in a crazy swirl,
And every planet was a shining pearl

Chorus:
Then oh lord, I licked my mind
Goblins and freaks dancin’ up my spine,
Reality twisted in a frenzied spin,
And I lost myself to the world within.

(There were several more verses)
Then I fed the changed lyrics into UDIO with the prompt "Pebbles, garage rock, proto-punk"
I made about six 30-second options, and chose the one I liked best.
Then using the chosen option, It spit out 30 second parts at a time, and I had to stitch them together using the Izotope editor.
It would not create all the pieces I wanted, especially the guitar breaks were pretty bad, so I had to do the best I could with what it gave.
 
mr. splendid said:
First one sounds more like 70's Oz punk . Second one has a tendency towards 80's - 90's rock/garage . There's too much distortion and muddiness behind the vocals on both of them to pass them as 60's recordings .
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That's true, and I just found a possible reason for that. When you enter a prompt, the AI converts it into a different prompt with more detailed instructions. I discovered that it was adding a lot of stuff including "Lo-Fi" into all my prompts, without me knowing. So I have turned that off, and next time it might be better. It's a common misconception that '60s garage is lo-fi, when in reality it's the exact opposite.
 
I think these AI creations are amazing. Many of these recent ones sound like they could be the same band with the same vocalist. And many remind me of the Music Machine - maybe because their production was so good.
Can you factor in things such as , bass guitar slightly out of tune, tambourine loud, drums with a boomy snare, teenage higher pitch vocals, farfisa, 12 string lead guitar solo etc?!
 
morloch said:
Can you factor in things such as , bass guitar slightly out of tune, tambourine loud, drums with a boomy snare, teenage higher pitch vocals, farfisa, 12 string lead guitar solo etc?!
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No, you generally can not specify anything about the mix. You can try, and sometimes it will oblige, but mostly it just does what it thinks is appropriate for the prompt, title and lyrics you give it. There are new features coming that give a lot more control, but I don't have access to them yet. The current situation is very crude, hit and miss. But I imagine that the results it gives right now, will be gone within a year. In other words, the songs made today will not be able to be made next year, because of advancements in the technology. It will be too good and slick. I sort of like the patchwork effect, it's absolutely crazy sometimes, like nothing a human would write. Like this one :


"The Girl That Burned Me Down" is pure AI. I didn't even write the lyrics. I like them better than my lyrics.
 
Since I've been mentioning the AI sites I use, I want to clarify for anyone who might try for themselves, to avoid disappointment.

Suno.com - the original, makes decent full length tunes, especially rockabilly but it's hopeless for garage music (any era). Voices are heavily autotuned and robotic. Leans toward modern electonic music and rap.

Udio.com - by far the best for garage music, but only 33 seconds at a time, although it can extend. Superior natural sounding voices. More inventive and quirky than Suno.

Udioai.ai - this appears to be a scam, avoid!
 
even though it's AI I can imagine there is quite some user skill in getting these great results, especially with the editing and prompts. It's kinda like Produced by Boss Hoss, Written by Boss Hoss/AI. Played by AI wrecking crew.
 
I just had a first attempt - failure!
Was hoping for a riffy early Kinks style, but of my 2 results - one sounds like a modern reproduction of Kiss or the The Sweet. The other, a fairly convincing 60s sound, but highly produced harmony sunshine pop.
I was also thinking you would get 30 seconds songs, but the tracks just end as if it's a sample. Getting pieces that are suitable for editing must be a nightmare - or does the extended option give you a full track?

I can see how this could be addictive, but enough for now, I have work to do......and the sun is out in Sydney for the first time in days.
 
Cool! I see you used 3 x 30 second sections, very impressive! It has a kind of late 1967 British feel, more Rubble than Pebbles, I think you could say. I was going to try entering "Rubble" as part of a prompt, just to see what it might do with that.

Anyway, your song is a unique one-off, probably never released or monetised. Done purely for fun and sharing with friends which I think is the way music should be. I hope you'll post a few more.
 
Yes 3 sections. I wasn't sure how many extensions are allowed, but I'm happy with how this turned out with just the 3.
Funnily enough I actually hit "Create" before changing my prompts from the first attempt. This time, with the same prompts , I got 2 more very different results. One of my prompts was actually "The Kinks" but band name prompts are not allowed so it replaced that automatically with some others that I just left. One of my other prompts was Easybeats, which it left in....

So that gave me the middle section. I extended by selecting outro, one of which worked well and added a kind of solo, the other didn't sound much like an outro at all.
The first bit, now the middle, actually started half way through a word, so I chopped that off and extended again with an instrumental intro. Again of the 2 versions presented one was boring, and the other I kept.

I noticed that some of the prompts entered by the AI, in exchange for Kinks were .... raw and freakbeat! End result... rubble. So in a way using a band name as a prompt sort of worked to get this result.
 
If you weren't already convinced that UDIO AI is the Devil's instrument, there's a new feature released right now which will definitely push you over the edge.

The new feature lets you take any piece of sound, including soundclips from songs, and load them up into Udio. Then you give it a title (of your own), and a descriptive prompt such as "garage rock, Pebbles". Then you write a few lyrics, or get ChatGPT to write them, and press the "Extend" button to extend the song from the clip you uploaded.

Here's what i uploaded. It's the first 5 seconds of the track "Nowdays People" by Captain Crunch & The Crew, which I selected at random from my FLAC transfers. It could be any track from a CD, or your own music, or your own singing or whatever sound you want to use.


Then I wrote some dumb lyrics as a test, about a "Psycho Ride". When I pressed "Extend", This is what Udio spat out. It copied all the instruments pretty much exactly, and made up a new(ish) tune based on the sounds of those instruments, and added its own singing and melody. It played really great rhythm guitar, in my opinion.


Which means you can now basically clone the instruments of any 60s garage track (or any other genre) from a very short sample, and make them play on a new track. It's the Devil's instrument. But if you upload your own original sounds there's obviously no problem at all.

Here's a link to the full Captain Crunch track.
 
I'll post this mini video-doco here, because it sounds like it was researched, composed, and narrated by a lazy AI. But it's interesting from the perspective of illustrating just how nebulous the border between pop and garage is.

 
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