Outside_Lookin_in
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A good explanation of how music has declined since the sixties.
Why Is Modern Music So Awful?
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Dave Baldwin
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Blame MTV and Hip-Hop. I enjoyed both back in the early 8os, but they've ruined the industry.
Rock, R&B, jazz, country...corrupted. There are some promising indies around but they're outliers.
Rock, R&B, jazz, country...corrupted. There are some promising indies around but they're outliers.
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U.S. Boomers don't generally dig The Sonics, Hasil Adkins or Q65...or 60s garage or Northern Soul in general. Even some of
the 'seniors' that were in those cool bands back then have moved on to James Taylor, K-Pop trendies, Jimmy Buffett or Beyonce.
The 'Beatle worship' thing is certainly annoying, but always has been. I stopped buying Beatles records when "Eight Days A Week"
became a hit and switched camps to Stones/Yardbirds/Animals (and our local combos that copied them). I also managed to never
malign The Beach Boys though...especially when all the 'hippie sheep' started hating on them circa '67.
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Nothing good lasts forever...a cliche that certainly applies here.
"Good" music-wise being the familiar and obscure (to most folks) sounds we know, love and forever champion.
Therefore, the drek shown in the clip, and the various influences (similar offshoots of sounds and mass-marketed pop culture) to what it has now become, will continue to pollute public consciousness. Doubt muchly that anything will ever pose a threat to challenge the immediate disposal quality of the product that is produced and marketed ad nauseum. Which brings to mind the next cliché - It can only get worse.
"Good" music-wise being the familiar and obscure (to most folks) sounds we know, love and forever champion.
Therefore, the drek shown in the clip, and the various influences (similar offshoots of sounds and mass-marketed pop culture) to what it has now become, will continue to pollute public consciousness. Doubt muchly that anything will ever pose a threat to challenge the immediate disposal quality of the product that is produced and marketed ad nauseum. Which brings to mind the next cliché - It can only get worse.
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Let's close this down before it becomes a "Steve Hoffman Forum" thread! (lol)
Outside_Lookin_in
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No need to close this down. I like the video because the narrator tries to prove his point using objective metrics. Having said that, the reality isn't as black and white as he makes out: it's more of a trend. We've had payola since the fifties, so the mere-exposure effect has long been relevant. We've had compression at least since the seventies, and not all modern music is compressed or timbrally flat. Also, you can't fully trust someone who can't pronounce timbre.
Personally, in my insatiable quest for novelty and variety, I listen to music from every decade beyond the fifties. Not much from the seventies though, as that is the decade with the most compression, followed by the eighties. Garage will always be my favourite genre however. If I have to give an explanation for that, it's hard to be objective, and all I can offer is that garage has a much higher emotional content; I've got an anti-commercial / anti-establishment gene in my genome; and I generally tire less of garage songs than I do of songs in other genres. Some of those reasons may be explicable in terms of what is said in the above video.
Personally, in my insatiable quest for novelty and variety, I listen to music from every decade beyond the fifties. Not much from the seventies though, as that is the decade with the most compression, followed by the eighties. Garage will always be my favourite genre however. If I have to give an explanation for that, it's hard to be objective, and all I can offer is that garage has a much higher emotional content; I've got an anti-commercial / anti-establishment gene in my genome; and I generally tire less of garage songs than I do of songs in other genres. Some of those reasons may be explicable in terms of what is said in the above video.
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The "right" kind of compression in the recording chain can be pretty cool...ever hear a Joe Meek record?
Compression in disc mastering is another animal and can be an ugly one for the listener/consumer.
Outside_Lookin_in
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Yes, and not a big fan I'm afraid! But, very limited use as a sound effect could be quite alright, I agree; however all the Meek recordings I've listened to sound flat and lifeless to me. Perhaps we have different tastes or different hearing.
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The main thing I hate about modern music is the way it sounds. The actual sound quality. I hate that even worse than the songs or lyrics. Here is an example of a modern recording which I think is brilliant, but it's brilliant because it doesn't use any modern recording methods. It's pure analog tape. If only more records could be made this way. It's an instrumental, 60s style but recorded relatively recently. Sound quality = as good as anything from the 60s. And it has great style and energy for what it is.
I can only assume the analog recorder and other analog gear used for this must have been impeccably maintained.
I can only assume the analog recorder and other analog gear used for this must have been impeccably maintained.
Outside_Lookin_in
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The link I posted was removed by soundcload. I'm working on an alternative solution...
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I hear the sound of warm tube guitar amps here...like meat and potatoes to me.
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"I can make this sans amp sound like a tweed Princeton or a plexi."
"I can simulate the reverb of a giant cathedral with this plug in"
"I can make this drum machine sound like Ringo or space ships"
Sometimes people make great art out of whatever they come across, and sometimes you can't find it from the number of people failing to make great art but having equal bandwidth. There is always an example of somebody blowing my mind... and somebody just blowing.
"I can simulate the reverb of a giant cathedral with this plug in"
"I can make this drum machine sound like Ringo or space ships"
Sometimes people make great art out of whatever they come across, and sometimes you can't find it from the number of people failing to make great art but having equal bandwidth. There is always an example of somebody blowing my mind... and somebody just blowing.
I think sixties music came from the heart and a need to express freedom from the fifties. And the eagerness to experiment in latter days. Nowadays it's super commercial and no thanks to Pro Tools everyone can sing in tune, all one needs is a great looking bod.
Though I have to admit that the seventies hold some guilty pleasures for me, even one Abba song...aah those sweet memories of youth.
Though I have to admit that the seventies hold some guilty pleasures for me, even one Abba song...aah those sweet memories of youth.
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Nope I don't need "a man after midnight"
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