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It probably wouldn't be as impressive to anyone else. The experimentation and evaluation makes you hyper-sensitive to succeses and failures.
Another new sound system
- Thread starter bosshoss
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Yesterday I tried mixing one of the bags with water to make a paste. It wasn't easy. First I injected water into the bag through a hole. But the bags are pretty full of the "B" powder which is extremely dry and soaks up a huge amount of water. Even when the bag was full of water and powder, it was still too dry to stir. So I cut off the top of the bag used a big spoon to get the damp powder out of the bag. I ended up with 5 litres of thick black syrup! That's just one bag - 9 more to go. Obviously I don't need to wet any more right now, so I'll put the Kegg in the garage, even though it's incredible for the sound. It's just slightly in the way next to the breaker box.
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Today I received something I ordered last week. It's a roll of AMF Magnafix, which is strongly magnetic rubber-like tape used for fixing to windows etc. I have coated some with STB Platinum, and used it on the wall sockets, over the top of the switches. It is incredible in this location. I have not yet tried it in other locations but I'm certain it will be great in locations where there is no possibility of wand proximity. The magnetic base material spreads the STB field much further than it would with no magnetism. This is the same idea that Perfect Path used for their US$600 Omega Mats. The mats were exactly the same AMF-type material, with a small amount of graphene painted on top. They were really good, but not anywhere near as good as STB Platinum magnetic tape, I need not tell you. I'll include a piece in the Platinum Pack.
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Outside_Lookin_in
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So basically a roll of fridge magnet for non-metallic surfaces?
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Yes. You put a strip on the window frame, and another strip with opposite polarity on a fly-screen etc. Then the fly-screen will adhere magnetically to the window frame for easy removal and cleaning.
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The STB magnetic strips are fantastic for the breaker box as well. At this stage I think much better than the STB Platinum Elastoplast, although I have not done (and probably will not do) a direct comparison.
The other good thing about the Magnafix, is it seems to have the perfect adhesive strength. The nanotape was much too strong, the Elastoplast a bit too weak, but the Magnafix is juuuuust right.
The other good thing about the Magnafix, is it seems to have the perfect adhesive strength. The nanotape was much too strong, the Elastoplast a bit too weak, but the Magnafix is juuuuust right.
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Here's the latest STB report
Tonight I removed the heavily treated power cords that I have had on the Kii speakers since the beginning of this thread, and were painted with various mixtures at different stages of development. They were perhaps 20 layers thick with early STB, and the last few layers contained Component "B" as well. They were damned ugly! Also I removed the Black Wand which was behind the stereo, and all the expensive MC magnets (coated with TFT) I was still using from High Fidelity Cables. Lastly I removed the stack of 10 (STB customised) Perfect path Alpha Cards, all 8 Perfect Path mats, and the 5 sheets I had made myself which I was using behind the stereo. In other words, I removed EVERTYTHING from behind the stereo, and replaced the power cords with a brand new 4 metre pair of cheap Chinese powercords, like you get when you buy any cheap electrical appliance.
There was not a lot of difference, when I removed all of this. The only thing i really noticed was the Black Wand. It has an effect of making the images float, rather than sit in place behind the speakers. It's a very good effect, but I have to say it now seems like an option rather than a necessity.
What this means, is the STB Platinum (with lots of "B") which I have added to the breaker box in the last few days, is doing the entire job of making the music sound incredible. The experiment seems to indicate that the breaker box/ dimmer box treatments may be ALL that is required to reach sonic perfection. The items I removed made a difference, but it was very small. Maybe 10 percent. I could (and will) easily get that 10 percent back with more STB Platinum on the breaker box.
The only thing I have to make sure now, is that there is no residual effect remaining from the treatments I removed. I regard that as a distinct possibility, at least for a few hours or maybe a few days. Time will tell.
This photo shows what I removed. There were some more sheets, not shown here. Plus the Kegg has gone to the garage (I kept just one silver bag), and the sound is still amazing. All due to the recent additions to the breaker box using STB/Magnafix.
Tonight I removed the heavily treated power cords that I have had on the Kii speakers since the beginning of this thread, and were painted with various mixtures at different stages of development. They were perhaps 20 layers thick with early STB, and the last few layers contained Component "B" as well. They were damned ugly! Also I removed the Black Wand which was behind the stereo, and all the expensive MC magnets (coated with TFT) I was still using from High Fidelity Cables. Lastly I removed the stack of 10 (STB customised) Perfect path Alpha Cards, all 8 Perfect Path mats, and the 5 sheets I had made myself which I was using behind the stereo. In other words, I removed EVERTYTHING from behind the stereo, and replaced the power cords with a brand new 4 metre pair of cheap Chinese powercords, like you get when you buy any cheap electrical appliance.
There was not a lot of difference, when I removed all of this. The only thing i really noticed was the Black Wand. It has an effect of making the images float, rather than sit in place behind the speakers. It's a very good effect, but I have to say it now seems like an option rather than a necessity.
What this means, is the STB Platinum (with lots of "B") which I have added to the breaker box in the last few days, is doing the entire job of making the music sound incredible. The experiment seems to indicate that the breaker box/ dimmer box treatments may be ALL that is required to reach sonic perfection. The items I removed made a difference, but it was very small. Maybe 10 percent. I could (and will) easily get that 10 percent back with more STB Platinum on the breaker box.
The only thing I have to make sure now, is that there is no residual effect remaining from the treatments I removed. I regard that as a distinct possibility, at least for a few hours or maybe a few days. Time will tell.
This photo shows what I removed. There were some more sheets, not shown here. Plus the Kegg has gone to the garage (I kept just one silver bag), and the sound is still amazing. All due to the recent additions to the breaker box using STB/Magnafix.
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If this is true then every sound system in the house should be experiencing a huge benefit at the moment, including your kitchen system.
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It is. It's amazing.
Rich Strauss
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I received my package of STB Black last week. The same day that my friend Willa came to visit. She has various health issues and I spent the week taking her to medical care and visiting friends and shopping. Finally , today, there was nothing going on. She agreed to help me with some listening tests. We first listened to one of her favorites, Joni Mitchell. The record was very well recorded. I then appied 1/3 of one sheet of STB to my breaker box.
Then we listened to the record again. OMG! The difference was unbelievable!! We both heard it immediately. It was not subtle. The distortion disappeared. The background vocals blended in more smoothly. Everything was clearer, including the bass. It was amazing. 1/3 of one sheet of STB made an amazing difference. I asked Willa what percent improvement was made. She said 200%. I agree.
Mark, you are a mad genius! This is the biggest breakthrough in Audio ever!
I then listened to the Chancellors "On Tour'. It was equally improved. I then listened upstairs on my office system. Same story.
I plan to put the rest of the STB Black around the breakers. Any other suggestions?
I don't know how this works. But, it works.
Wow, just Wow.
Then we listened to the record again. OMG! The difference was unbelievable!! We both heard it immediately. It was not subtle. The distortion disappeared. The background vocals blended in more smoothly. Everything was clearer, including the bass. It was amazing. 1/3 of one sheet of STB made an amazing difference. I asked Willa what percent improvement was made. She said 200%. I agree.
Mark, you are a mad genius! This is the biggest breakthrough in Audio ever!
I then listened to the Chancellors "On Tour'. It was equally improved. I then listened upstairs on my office system. Same story.
I plan to put the rest of the STB Black around the breakers. Any other suggestions?
I don't know how this works. But, it works.
Wow, just Wow.
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That's fantastic Rich! Thanks for letting me know the results.
Yes, continue with more STB on the breaker box. I have now done enough tests to be sure that it is the best place for it. Get the tape as close as you can to the breaker switches, but never impede the proper action of the switches. Other than that, you will be fine.
With enough STB, you could cover every square inch of the breaker box., and after that you could do the outside of the hinged cover. You'll need more STB in due course but I can help you with that at no charge. Depending on how far you want to go and "if" it keeps working for you (haha, I'm more than confident!
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If your experience with STB continues like mine, and especially when you receive the new P5 Platinum and P5M magnetic tapes, the sound will keep getting better and better until like me you will truly be on the verge of STB induced madness.
Yes, continue with more STB on the breaker box. I have now done enough tests to be sure that it is the best place for it. Get the tape as close as you can to the breaker switches, but never impede the proper action of the switches. Other than that, you will be fine.
With enough STB, you could cover every square inch of the breaker box., and after that you could do the outside of the hinged cover. You'll need more STB in due course but I can help you with that at no charge. Depending on how far you want to go and "if" it keeps working for you (haha, I'm more than confident!
)If your experience with STB continues like mine, and especially when you receive the new P5 Platinum and P5M magnetic tapes, the sound will keep getting better and better until like me you will truly be on the verge of STB induced madness.
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^^ Haha! Perfect!
But I still see a lot of gray areas
STB P5M (magnetic) would be perfect for those long vertical strips.
But I still see a lot of gray areas
STB P5M (magnetic) would be perfect for those long vertical strips.
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I wish my breaker box was like Rich's. So much easier to deal with than mine.
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same breaker box that I have. I need to do this. a.s.a.p. Thanks Boss!!!
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I just finished another test.
This morning, I thought things sounded a little flat, compared to how great it was sounding last night. It was still great but definitely a step below what I was expecting even adjusting for the hours. So I put back the ugly power cords, and the great sound instantly came back. The cords just ramped it up, they are not solely responsible. The breaker box is still doing most of the work.
However, last night when I removed the power cords and the other stuff from behind the stereo, there was very little difference. When i put it back today, there was a very big difference. This confirms my earlier suspicion that there is a residual effect when STB is removed. Whatever it does to clean the power, some of the effect lasts for several hours after removal of the STB. But then it goes away, until the STB treatment is returned.
I still think the breaker box is the most important treatment, but the breaker box alone is obviously not going to be as good as a full treatment where local power cables and wall sockets are also treated. I have also confirmed that every wall socket in the house sounds better if it is covered in STB Platinum. Covering sockets nearer to the stereo usually makes a huge, very noticeable difference. Obviously it's too inconvenient to cover well-used sockets. But if any sockets are rarely used, then it's worth it.
This morning, I thought things sounded a little flat, compared to how great it was sounding last night. It was still great but definitely a step below what I was expecting even adjusting for the hours. So I put back the ugly power cords, and the great sound instantly came back. The cords just ramped it up, they are not solely responsible. The breaker box is still doing most of the work.
However, last night when I removed the power cords and the other stuff from behind the stereo, there was very little difference. When i put it back today, there was a very big difference. This confirms my earlier suspicion that there is a residual effect when STB is removed. Whatever it does to clean the power, some of the effect lasts for several hours after removal of the STB. But then it goes away, until the STB treatment is returned.
I still think the breaker box is the most important treatment, but the breaker box alone is obviously not going to be as good as a full treatment where local power cables and wall sockets are also treated. I have also confirmed that every wall socket in the house sounds better if it is covered in STB Platinum. Covering sockets nearer to the stereo usually makes a huge, very noticeable difference. Obviously it's too inconvenient to cover well-used sockets. But if any sockets are rarely used, then it's worth it.
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To anyone who is going to use the STB Black or Platinum tape on the breaker box, please note :
The Elastoplast tape I use for Black and P5 tapes is not very strong. It will stick ok, but it's possible it will start to lift at some time in the future. You don't want this to happen years from now and potentially interfere with proper operation of the breaker switches. Therefore I recommend that you buy a roll of 3M brand black cloth duct tape, and use the duct tape to tape down the edges of the STB tape, in any places where tape lifting could cause a problem. Don't cover all the STB (although it probably wouldn't affect the potency of the tape), just secure the edges.
With the STB P5M magnetic tape, the adhesive is quite strong and won't require any duct tape.
The Elastoplast tape I use for Black and P5 tapes is not very strong. It will stick ok, but it's possible it will start to lift at some time in the future. You don't want this to happen years from now and potentially interfere with proper operation of the breaker switches. Therefore I recommend that you buy a roll of 3M brand black cloth duct tape, and use the duct tape to tape down the edges of the STB tape, in any places where tape lifting could cause a problem. Don't cover all the STB (although it probably wouldn't affect the potency of the tape), just secure the edges.
With the STB P5M magnetic tape, the adhesive is quite strong and won't require any duct tape.
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I'll send you enough STB P5E (Elastoplast) and P5M (Magnetic) to do the entire breaker board like shown above, if you promise to do it and let us know how it sounds!
No need to do the inside cover door - it may have important safety info printed on it.
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Just tested the first "official" batch of STB P5M, with 5 super-thick layers of hi-B STB. It's like a neutron bomb, about 10 times more powerful than STB Black. The effect on Rolling Stones records (all I've played so far) is to continuously let you hear things you never heard before, even with a full STB Black installation. I mean, every single second you hear something new.
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