Another new sound system

[bosshoss]

True, if you made the cable gratuitously long, but over the equal distance, I think cable will always win out.

It's hard to know. Do we even know if WiFi degrades over short distances? And if it does, at what rate, compared to cables? And is "degrades" even the right word? Maybe it should be "pollutes", as in the detrimental effect is not in the signal being carried, but the pollution it causes to other equipment (or to the power supply of the dwelling) by leakage of the ultra-high frequency carrier signal, probably.

I'm leaning to the possibility that there is little or no degradation of the audio signal with either WiFi or cables. It's all ultra-high frequency leakage, affecting the power supply of other audio equipment.

If data bits were being scrambled and wildly corrupted hundreds or thousands of times per second, the Kii speaker software would crash and the music would stop. Or the distortion would be unbearable. The concept of "mild" corruption is not feasible. Corruption so subtle and controlled that the receiving software can deal with it and make corrections and substitutions on the fly, does not seem realistic, when dealing with random errors caused by malfunctioning cables or WiFi modems. Data corruption of this kind means total chaos.

 

[Outside_Lookin_in]

It's hard to know. Do we even know if WiFi degrades over short distances? And if it does, at what rate, compared to cables? And is "degrades" even the right word? Maybe it should be "pollutes", as in the detrimental effect is not in the signal being carried, but the pollution it causes to other equipment (or to the power supply of the dwelling) by leakage of the ultra-high frequency carrier signal, probably.

I'm leaning to the possibility that there is little or no degradation of the audio signal with either WiFi or cables. It's all ultra-high frequency leakage, affecting the power supply of other audio equipment.

If data bits were being scrambled and wildly corrupted hundreds or thousands of times per second, the Kii speaker software would crash and the music would stop. Or the distortion would be unbearable. The concept of "mild" corruption is not feasible. Corruption so subtle and controlled that the receiving software can deal with it and make corrections and substitutions on the fly, does not seem realistic, when dealing with random errors caused by malfunctioning cables or WiFi modems. Data corruption of this kind means total chaos.

I've tested it in cars, and you don't get much shorter distances than that. Whatever you wan't to call it, I stand by my assertion. Granted that in-car, bluetooth rather than wi-fi is used but the frequencies are similar and the principle the same. But we will test it out when I recover from this self-purported Omicron bug.

 

[bosshoss]

Re cars -
My first VW had a good sound system, and I played WAV files on the inbuilt CD player. They sounded very good. Then I got an iPhone, and loaded the same WAV files onto my iPhone. I plugged that into the VW using a cable and it sounded very disappointing. I coudn't listen to it knowing how good it sounded direct from a CD.

So cars can have different quality sound for different input types, regardless of WiFi or Bluetooth (I wasn't using either). After that experience, I certainly wouldn't make a judgement on sound quality based on the results of car audio experiments.

Get Well Soon Daniel!

 

[Outside_Lookin_in]

Re cars -
My first VW had a good sound system, and I played WAV files on the inbuilt CD player. They sounded very good. Then I got an iPhone, and loaded the same WAV files onto my iPhone. I plugged that into the VW using a cable and it sounded very disappointing. I coudn't listen to it knowing how good it sounded direct from a CD.

So cars can have different quality sound for different input types, regardless of WiFi or Bluetooth (I wasn't using either). After that experience, I certainly wouldn't make a judgement on sound quality based on the results of car audio experiments.

The in-car experiments involved comparing bluetooth and wired connections in the same vehicle, from the same iPhone, so everything was controlled except for the connection type. In your case you used 2 different sources: one variable too many to reach a conclusion. I have tried the same experiment in 3 different vehicles, all with the same result: wired smashes bluetooth.

Get Well Soon Daniel!

Thank you Mark - I have a good motivation to do so now!

 

[bosshoss]

I have determined what caused the "quantum" leap in performance yesterday. It was covering the unused AC outlets in the music room with Nuclear STB. Doing this was probably one of the biggest improvements I have ever experienced with STB experiments. But it must be Nuclear. I already had Platinum on there, and the effect was not nearly as great.

Underneath the STB is a regular AC outlet (metal) wall plate. You have to cover the whole entire thing, to get the awesome result. If you need to use the outlet, you can peel back the tape temporarily.

May be too inconvenient for casual listeners, but for anyone involved in making transfers or mastering, it's a must. Adds huge air and impact to the playback.

 

[bosshoss]

I've talked about "solid" images before, but today I had my first experience of actual solid sound. I made 3 more giant sheets of Nuclear STB, and instead of cutting them into bricks or strips, I cut them into wide strips (about 3 or 4 inches by 320mm), and stuck 4 of the wide strips on the front of tthe dirstribution boards downstairs. I already have a LOT of Nuclear bricks on the distribution boards (I store all of the bricks I make in the main board - why not, haha). But the wide strips stuck direcly onto the faceplate seem to outperform the bricks. In any case, the combined effect of the bricks, cable strips and wide strips has created actual solid sound. That you could almost touch. It's completely freaky.

this shows how many Nuclear bricks I have on the distribution board. Each brick improved the sound by a lot. But the 2 large strips stuck to the faceplate caused the "solid sound" to appear. Probably only because the bricks are already there? Or maybe not...? It seems the actual glue contact with the faceplate makes a huge difference to the potency of the Nuclear effect.

I think I will try removing all the bricks, and stick more wide Nuclear strips all over the faceplate. I could always replace the bricks afterwards. If the wide strips are as good as (or better than) the bricks, it would be a much more cost-effective way to achieve "solid sound"

(yellow dot means "Nuclear" brick)

 

[bosshoss]

Guess what?
Nuclear STB works on guitars.

I tried irt in various places. It works in the position shown, and also it works really well hidden under the back plastic cover, where the springs are located. It also works near the control knobs.

The effect is louder, clearer, richer sound with more of everything, bass, treble, dynamics, and slightly reduced noise as a bonus. You would not be able to get this effect with tone controls, because Nuclear STB acts on electromagnetic interference, not frequency modification.

Here's the world's first ever Nuclear Stratocaster. $50,000 vintage guitars could never compete with this sound.

 

[Frantic]

Guess what?
Nuclear STB works on guitars.

I tried irt in various places. It works in the position shown, and also it works really well hidden under the back plastic cover, where the springs are located. It also works near the control knobs.

The effect is louder, clearer, richer sound with more of everything, bass, treble, dynamics, and slightly reduced noise as a bonus. You would not be able to get this effect with tone controls, because Nuclear STB acts on electromagnetic interference, not frequency modification.

Here's the world's first ever Nuclear Stratocaster. $50,000 vintage guitars could never compete with this sound.

like I said STratoB Labs.

 

[bosshoss]

like I said STratoB Labs.

Certainly works on Strato's. I'll try it out on a Gibson next! I should note that it's not a drastic difference in tone. It's subtle, like the difference between a modern and vintage guitar. Perhaps important to a musician, but probably not to the general public.

*edit - after Nuclearizing both front and back of the Strat, I've changed my mind - it's a lot better, cleaner, and more dynamic.
**edit2 - after Nuclearizing the guitar cord as well, I'm extremely happy with the overall sound. Glassy, full-bodied and dynamic through a Vox AC4HW1. I'm sure it woud sound even better through a Fender amp.

 

[bosshoss]

I finished covering the entire guitar lead with Nuclear STB today. It's a revelation for guitar sound. It sounds like you're directly hardwired to the amp. I've never heard anything like it. Loud, rich, clear dynamic tones. I've played a lot of guitar in my life, and it's never sounded like this.

 

[bosshoss]

I wonder what other home audio / pro audio / or electronic musical equipment can be improved by Nuclear STB? Probably all of it.

 

[mr. splendid]

I'd imagine it could make a big improvement in the mastering process , especially when working with the original tapes .

 

[bosshoss]

Today I developed the most powerful Nuclear device yet - the Nuclear Depth Charge.

It consists of 10 neodymium magnet sheets (yes, the US$40 per piece kind). So it's not for the faint hearted.
I painted each sheet with 3 heavy layers of Nuclear STB on one side, then I paired them magnetically into 5 twin-sided slabs, with the STB sides out, and the strong magnetic sides touching. And boy do they touch. You can hardly pry them apart once they are paired, the magnets are so strong. But once they are paired, the pair itself is hardly magnetic any more. All the magnetic force of both sheets is concentrated into binding the pair together.

Then I stacked the 5x 2-sheet slab pairs into a single block. That is the Nuclear Depth Charge (see pic below). I hung it across the breaker box near the mains switches. It takes the bass down to subsonic, where it can only be felt, not heard. You just see the cones move, and feel the whole room vibrate. But somehow it's perfectly clear and without any distortion. I have a JL Gotham subwoofer downstairs, and without the Depth Charge it couldn't do what the Kii bookshelf speakers are doing, with the Depth Charge. (Maybe it can now, but I can't test it right now).

I don't know it this is true, but somehow I imagine the EMI distortion disappearing into the magnetic void, trapped between the paired sheets. Maybe that's true, maybe it isn't. But it sure sounds like the grain and distortion has disappeared into a black hole.

The Depth Charge has taken over as the Alpha-piece. There's always one piece which dominates all others. It's quite strange. As long as the Alpha -piece is in place, it seems like the other pieces are, not redundant but very secondary.

 

[mr. splendid]

Would it work if I buy some magnetic sheets and stick the Nuclear STB you sent on it ?

 

[bosshoss]

Would it work if I buy some magnetic sheets and stick the Nuclear STB you sent on it ?

Yes it would work. I haven't tested it but I am sure it would work. There may be a slight efficiency loss by having the lesser quality magnet between the STB and the high quality magnet. But apart from that, there should be no difference. All the Nuclear STB I sent out in the Nuclear Packs has 5 layers.

Only problem is, the Nuclear Packs don't have a lot of wide strips, and the narrow strips are vital for use on cables. The solution would be to break open the Nuclear Elevator and take out the Nuclear sheets inside it. You could then use contact adhesive to glue them to the strong magnetic sheets. Don't use PVA to glue them, because it would crack and peel off over time. Contact adhesive is already used in the adhesive strips as the first layer under the STB, so I know it's safe to use and actually benefits the sound. You would end up with something way more powerful than the Nuclear Elevator.

Another option is to wait and see if the Nuclear Paint I sent to a "customer" in Germany gets through customs with no problems. With the paint you could make your own 100% authentic Nuclear Depth Charge. And a Nuclear fo.Q turntable mat as well.

There are 2 grades of strong magnetic sheets. They are both powerful but the more expensive one (Grade RE5) is twice as powerful as the less expensive one. It's only $10 (approx) more, so I strongly recommend it. Both are shown here, the good one is $65.95 Aust dollars - go for that one. It's showing they are currently sold out, because I bought them all. They only had 5 in stock, and I bought 5 of each. Best wait for new stock to arrive, or try to source elsewhere.

https://magnet.com.au/search?refine...nementList[meta.amf.shape][0]=Sheets&q=sheets

 

[bosshoss]

Here's some of the work Daniel and I did yesterday, on the distribution board in the garage. You can see a black frame around the orange board. This frame used to be white, now it's Nuclear Black. 3 layers I think. The top section is a wooden cover, behind which lies all the mains wiring coming from the board, heading upstairs to the house. Needless to say, it made quite a positive diference to the sound we auditioned last night. I will probably add more layers today. STB has been tested up to 21 layers, and still keeps giving.

There are a few strips and bricks stuck on the right hand panels. That's because those doors are sealed and can not be opened. The left hand doors can be opened, and there are many Nuclear bricks behind the top and bottom doors.

 

[Outside_Lookin_in]

It may seem a tad repetitious for me to give yet another positive report, and I know every report seems to be of perfection achieved, but I'll have to toss all moderation aside, because last night's listening session really was a sight to behold. I say "sight" because the imagining was so well developed. But that's not all. Sound stage was deep and much wider than the speaker positioning. It also went from the floor to about a metre or so above the speakers. At times it felt like the whole room was filled with the drum kit, and I felt the whole floor moving to the preternaturally low and clean bass tones. Every note was fully formed and you could both feel and see every oscillation of the strings. The inky blackness of the very low sound floor gave fullness and dynamic to every note played. The highs had lost all harshness, and the music had spades of realism. I really don't know how much more improvement is possible, or even if it is necessary!

 

[bosshoss]

I have to agree with what Daniel says above.
One thing I have now tested and confirmed, is that shorter data cables are better for the sound. I replaced both the Kii (very long, Nuclear treated) data cables with very short Nuclear treated cables. There's no contest, the shorter ones sound better, as expected.

I'm also adding more layers to the frame. Five so far, very successful.

Another recent discovery - the High Fidelity Cables (brand) MC 0.5 magnets are awesome when you totally cover them with a sheet of Nuclear STB. I would say it magnifies their effect 5 to 10 times. Ot you could say the MC 0.5 Magnets magnify the effect of the STB 5 to 10 times. Anyway, they work together beautifully. At least as powerful as the Depth Charge (probably more powerful). I just plug them into the wall socket next in line to the stereo.

 

[Rythmn Boy]

I posted 3 packages today. I would like to have posted more, but they each take some time to process, and with the Christmas crush on, the queue is long and very impatient. So I decided to post a few each day this week instead.

Mark, My Nuclear pack arrived and I have finally had time to do something with the earlier pack as well. I have taken a minimalist approach due to my significant other's apparently genuine fear of the house burning down. So, all I have done is stuck some of the tape on the fuse box and placed the bricks under the power points. The rest of the material is in a drawer immediately under the amplifier. It seems to be having some effect,

Thanks for sending me the packs and maybe I can do some bolder experiments later

Merry Xmas all!

 

[bosshoss]

Mark, My Nuclear pack arrived...
Merry Xmas all!

That's great Rhythm Boy. I'm glad you're getting some benefit already. I hope your experiments will yield further positive results in the new year. Merry Christmas to you!