Confines of Garage

michaelvee

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hello boys and girls (although it will be 99% boys, I'am afraid).... I know this topic has been discussed before on the forum, I just wanted to cast a new light on it, from a different angle.... I' most intested in your comments, good or bad, pls let me know

Confines of Garage
A good way to better identify the term Garage may be the attempt to confine it.
In first place, confining can be done chronologically. Hardcore Garage fiends, most generally, concentrate on the years 1964 to 1968, although we might widen this timeframe a little more to include Surf groups, the pre-Beat era, dance fade records and some later but still garagey sounding recordings (1962 – 1969). This means, Rock’n’Roll, Rockabilly and alike are out (tho’they can be regarded as the parents of Garage) . On the other extremity, Rock, Hardrock, Progressive Rock, Supergroups, and Jazzrock (read Cream, Lead Zeppelin, Band of Gypsies, Blue Cheer, Steppenwolf, ELP, Chicago, et al) are definitely out since all these groups have misunderstood or perverted the original concept of Garage (i.e. simplicity, and fun) (which did not mean kids had to buy a 500 W Marshall tower to impress simply by loudness. Or to visit a music academy).
The second way to border Garage is by genre / style. In straight down antithesis to Garage, all MiddleoftheRoad records, orchestrated sounds and Schlagers will be trashed for first, as will be done with artists who strive for musical virtuosity, pomposity, and elitist musicians aiming to “explore the borders” whereas delivering boring 20‘ solos and “music for musicians”, as I call it.
Same goes for folk music, flatulent ballads (like Moody Blues, King Crimson, not beat ballads), C&W and for all groups who look back (Garage always looks forwards!). I forgot: All lame ass musicians (like Greatful Dead, first place) are definitely out.
At the confines there are some unexpected groups and artists who might help to draw the red line. Like Johnny & the Hurricanes, the Beach Boys, MC5, Strawberry Alarm Clock, The Fugs, (all in ), …..
Soul music is a difficult argument, since it should be included in the sector (as Garage’s black brothers) and most Garage heads (specially Mods) love Soul sounds. Nevertheless, and without trying to draw up a racist concept, we generally exclude Soul to give it a giant but separate music hall.
Another way of confining might be to look at drugs. Purple Hearts helped to spark the sound, Marihuana elevated it, LSD lifted it off mileshigh (with some bad crash downs), Cocaine speeded it up (and then threw all in an artificial void) while Heroin killed it definitely. As Garage means fun, dance and romance, but also open-up-your-door, I’m afraid all music made on hard drugs will result dull and depressive and thus does not fit it the concept but must be demarcated. From JH to JJ, and from Lou Reed to (later) David Bowie, there are too many bad examples.
Finally (and a bit stupidly, I admit, as there are many exceptions), we can try to identify the instruments which produce Garage sounds. Starting from the classical set (electric guitar, bass, drums, keyboards, harmonica and also sax), we get to the middle section with instruments that exceptionally fit in if played with good sense and measure, like accordion, recorder, trumpet, harp, sitar……
Though you might claim many exceptions, I turn off any record featuring violin (not string ensembles!), banjo, traverse flute, and clarinet (not oboe), plus all instruments of a classical orchestra, if played unaccompanied.
What is left in between the red line, might be Garage, especially if it features fuzz guitars, snotty vocals, pounding drums, tambourine, wailing harp and howling Farfisa organ.
 
It's great to be so enthusiastic about '60s garage music, and to want to share and discuss your viewpoint on the definition of the genre. I've always said that the boundaries of '60s garage are defined by the mutual agreement of those of us who care about it, and want to discuss and promote it. Unlike soul, It never existed as a recognised genre, in the '60s.
But perhaps it's re-inventing the wheel since the publication of Teenbeat Mayhem, which not only does a superb job of defining '60s garage, but also lists almost all of the relevant US 45rpm examples released at the time.

Also, I may be a boy, but I look like a girl.
 
thx for gettingback, Boss. Sure the genre didn't exist in the 60, and TBM book and its forewords and list is the bible and has defined the genre (at least for the US) quite ultimately. I have collected the various viewpoints (also as expressed by g45 members) in an archive and was curious if confining could be the easier - and less academic - way to explain the concept of g to ignorants (i.e. to almost all, I'm afraid) who wonder about my mad passion. And I'm happy you look like a girl, at least!
 
Am I bit strange in still thinking of garage as the physical place? Garage band was an American (inclusive of Canada) term for your friendly neighborhood, not, or at best semi-, professional rock band. They rehearsed in a garage as often as not, but a basement would count even if not actually a garage. So I can even see the first months of The Beach Boys playing all the instruments themselves as a genuine (Hawthorne) garage group, but once they signed to Capitol and/or involved any session musicians they had 'graduated' to some other category.

Some people approach things as there has to be a certain raw kickass sound, but I would say The Shaggs (those three sisters) would be garage, or Boby Fuller home recordings in Texas as garage. Also that the recordings don't have to be any good at all to qualify, or too good to disqualify, just that the artrists are not or semi-p[rofessional. I'm not sure how this might relate to model kits that are known as garage kits, but maybe there is some strange linkage? I don't believe in 'punk' but I believe in Do It Yourself as a movement, and the '60s garage explosion was the original DIY, and Link Wray's 'Rumble' in the late '50s would be a moment zero if there was one.

I have probably stated these thoughts here or at the earlier site. Having there be a quintesential sound of garage is going to be totally subjective, but I think you can quantify if the artist(s) are garage or not garage. Fuzz guitars are not essential, nor snotty vocals, nor farfisas. The big '64-'68 explosion seemed a response to the British groups though, that would be a historical facet. I'm not against including Aus/NZ/South Africa either, or anywhere else, but it has to be rock & roll of some kind and at best semi-pro (smaller local label records with sub or non-national distribution, or vanity pressing).

Girlishly,
Rebecca
 
dear Rebecca (I'm happy someone holds the femine flag high up!)

I agree on all you say, and the early Beach Boys are sure included! (and fuzz guitars and farfisa maybe not essential but help to create the sound). I'm happy about your comment, and your view that goes beyond simply collecting vinyl pieces. It all helps to give me a possible reply to the numerous questions of what my illness is all about..

stay cool sis!
 
Am I bit strange in still thinking of garage as the physical place?

Rebecca, I can think of at least a couple of problems with the definition being a physical place. First, it renders the term "garage" useless as a category for music, because some soul bands, doo-wop bands and mariachi bands also rehearsed in garages. Second, there were some very crude bands signed to major labels (eg. Brothers And Sisters), and some extremely polished and professional bands who were not (eg. Fly-Bi-Nites). And what about bands who started out in the garage, then got signed to a major label, but then got dumped and went back to releasing their own stuff? Does that mean their early and later work was garage, but the mid-period major label work was not? The definition becomes too complicated and unfortunately is not usable in any meaningful way.
(I know you know your stuff when it comes to great '60s music) :sunny:
 
Well yeah, I can see how it's not too perfect that way... maybe I got too hung up thinking about those Release Of An Oath and Mass albums (supposedly) by The Prunes or something. Where would the New Colony Six go from garage to not garage, or were The Sonics garage from 'Savage Young' to present?

But... now I'm curious to imagine mariachi garage!
 
I don't think it's possible to "confine" garage music in order to define it. Partly because there are too many exceptions to the rule, and partly because of the idiosyncratic boundaries that individual enthusiasts of the genre have in place. The end result of placing boundaries is that they are too narrow and exclude some garage songs, or too broad and therefore meaningless. This is why in my attempt to define garage in an earlier thread, I approached it from the opposite end (from the centre, more accurately). I tried to find defining characterises and placed them on a sliding scale from one extreme to another. That way it was possible to reflect the reality on the ground: garage is a continuum with a "hard core" centre (which the vast majority, if not all, of garage enthusiasts would agree on) that gradually greys as you move further out. While TBM may serve well in defining US garage, I attempted to capture the meaning of garage on a global basis. I won't go into further detail as I'd only be repeating what I and others said in previous threads.

As a comment on beccabear's notion of place, I would add that garage bands were often found playing in school halls, church halls and shopping centres. But as pointed out above, a restrictive definition will fail in defining the genre, both by excluding some garage, and including non-garage.
 
I agree on everything you say Outside, (and I copied your sliding scale into my essay on Garage music); I just wanted to try the other way around and see if if could be helpful though I'm aware there's many exceptions
 
We all know what makes a BFTG track shake, rattle, and roll... but beyond the obvious, we're looking at a genre that can and does evolve. 20 years ago it would be unheard of for a moody B-side to get as much love as the A-side, but some of the teen ballads had such great intensity while some rockin' sides were, well, snoozers. (Not another version of La-Do-Dada!) I look at something like "Girl I Got News For You" by the Birdwatchers, who at the time were a club band, no longer in the garage. In early TBM voting this was listed as a 0, but now I'm not the only one who hears the organ sound and the snotty lyrics ("you're out of your tree!") and understands how it got a "4" (not a bad rating) in TBM. Not wyld, but a great record with a real 1966 sound. I like the evolution. It doesn't mean that lam-o Steppenwolf soundalikes will suddenly turn into garage records. It just means we understand there are more than one or two shades of blue (or eight shades of brown, as the What Fours sang.)
 
‘I’ve Got News For You’ is a total classic. I’d give it an 8 or 9. It was the song that got me searching out the rest of the Birdwatchers’ recordings, which you graciously sent me, Jeff. They were a great band.
 
we're looking at a genre that can and does evolve. 20 years ago it would be unheard of for a moody B-side to get as much love as the A-side, but some of the teen ballads had such great intensity while some rockin' sides were, well, snoozers.

My tastes haven't really changed in the 33 years I've been collecting "garage", refined a little maybe, but I loved the (garage) ballads back then, and I still do today. Likewise, there are garage collectors who've been in the game just as long if not longer than me, who still judge everything by that hardcore - almost frat at times - BFTG sound. If there has been an evolution in the last 20 years, then it's not the genre which has changed but it's new players coming on board who are changing the average. But I don't see it. I agree with your other point though. I don't think standard r'n'b covers, or regular frat should be classified as garage, but it often is lumped together by compilers and discographers.

I happen to give "I've got news for you" a 4.6 (the translation of my scale to the TBM scale). Which means I'm happy to own it, along with just about every other Birdwatchers 45. It turns out I like most covers of LaDoDaDa: it's the endless covers of Hey Joe and Louie Louie (overt and covert) which get to me :lol:
 
Not according to my database, but oddly I gave the Laughing Kind cover a slightly lower rating than the Tommy Smith one, but they are exactly the same are they not, or is one pressing better than the other?