Demand vs Rarity

I would have thought they were both approx. equal rarity? I would say around 10 known/suspected for both, so a 9.5 G45 Oracle rating. But I would put demand and Legend for Half Pint higher. Personally I would have to be desperate to pay that much for a g condition record, probably it would have to be the only known copy before I'd crack. But sometimes g rated records are much better than expected, if you're lucky.

I decided to check the totally cool G45 Oracle, to see what it said. Here's what it said when I fed it the numbers :

Half Pint (Side A TBM rating = 9, Side B=7, Rarity = 9.5, Legend = 8.5)
m- = $3,368
vg+ = $2,493
vg = $1,696
vg- = $970
g+ = $624

Shepherd's Heard (side A TBM rating = 8, side B = 5, Rarity = 9.5, Legend = 7.5)
m- = $2,521
vg+ = $1,866
vg = $1,270
vg- = $727
g+ = $467

If the Half Pint turns out to be vg instead of g (quite possible), then the buyer did ok. Otherwise he or she paid a vg price for a g+ record. Likewise the buyer of the Shepherd's Heard paid a vg+ price for a vg record (also unless it was undergraded).
 
Hmm , from my experience I would have figured the Half Pint is less rare . Popsike lists 5 copies and I am aware of a few more that changed hands outside of ebay . If I remember right it was considered a R 9 awhile ago ...
 
Maybe that's true for the Half Pint these days, Christian. I have not been very active collecting for the last 2 or 3 years. If it's really R9 (10-20 copies), then its values are
m- = $2310
vg+ = 1710
vg = $1164
vg- = $666
g = $428

unfortunately even worse news for the buyer :( But according to the Oracle, I also overpaid for my vg++ copy, 15 years ago. It was considered "less than 10 known" in those days. The Oracle puts a huge premium on "less than 10 known" copies. And even more for R10 (Less than 5). If it was ROK "Rarity One Known copy", the Oracle says it would be worth $6737 :bucks!:
 
It seems grading discs is overrated these days if you look at what more common garage 45s sell for on Facebook groups when they ar g+ to vg-. Full M- value for vg- discs is achieved on a daily basis. The need to own the artifact outweights the condition said artifact is in by far.

Or maybe it's been like this for a long time but just not as visible.
 
VG minus records hawked and sold on facebook are really G minus at best. That's why I avoid any seller that I have not done repeated business with in the past. a lot of those R&B / 50s collector guys are lousy graders. And they overprice most garage 45s. One guy wants $1000 for a VG Ty Wagner "I'm A No Count".
 
Mr.Segment said:
It seems grading discs is overrated these days if you look at what more common garage 45s sell for on Facebook groups when they ar g+ to vg-. Full M- value for vg- discs is achieved on a daily basis. The need to own the artifact outweights the condition said artifact is in by far.

Or maybe it's been like this for a long time but just not as visible.
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I have noticed that on Facebook groups since the beginning. Condition is virtually irrelevant to most of the people who buy from those groups. It's weird.
 
The seller of that copy of half pint has been trying to sell ot forever on discogs.i think he started at well over 1000.00.finally kept lowering the price and still no one bought it.some people on ebay have no isea what they ate doing.i dont care how rare half pint is,,that copy is not worth big money because its been run over by a truck
 
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