Lost G45 legends
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Mr.Segment
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I think Jim left because he wasn't too big on being in any kind of spotlight. An asset to the forum for sure. Well, both were.
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Mr. Julio is still around, he is busy with other things. He had a webpage up, I can't find the link in my folder.
I can't speak for him, or Jim (aka Modboy) but as a long standing / participating member like myself, how many times can you go around discussing the same subject? 99% of the time topics are rehashing the same old, same old. It's quite understandable that most people will get bored and quietly excuse themselves from forum activity.
It kinda sucks that the old forum archive is no longer available; lots of worthwhile G45 information is now 'gone with the wind'.
I can't speak for him, or Jim (aka Modboy) but as a long standing / participating member like myself, how many times can you go around discussing the same subject? 99% of the time topics are rehashing the same old, same old. It's quite understandable that most people will get bored and quietly excuse themselves from forum activity.
It kinda sucks that the old forum archive is no longer available; lots of worthwhile G45 information is now 'gone with the wind'.
Frantic
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well said
massb
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Unfortunately it has not been updated since 2019.
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In the early days of the G45 forum, and indeed in the original garagepunk forum era, there was a more direct need to be involved because there were very few alternative sources for info and opinion. There was no Youtube, no Facebook, no eBay, no Discogs, no Popsike, no Wikipedia, no TBM, no Garage Hangover, no blogs, no podcasts, no ChatGPT....just to name a few of the obvious ones.
(a few of the above had started, but had no relevant '60s garage content)
(a few of the above had started, but had no relevant '60s garage content)
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GarageHangover started in 2004, but the first original content like interviews or unpublished photos started in 2005. Commenting was added as a feature in 2006.
I'm not sure when the original Psychotic Reactions forum started, 2002 I think. It's a pity it wasn't preserved.
60sgaragebands.com started in 2002 I think, but some interviews had been published earlier. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The Bomp list, Spectropop, and other message boards were important sources of info early on.
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That’s correct. My online interviews started in the online version of the Lance Monthly in 1998. When I started 60sgaragebands.com, and due to limited bandwidth, I was only able to publish three articles per month, so the Beyond the Beat Generation site archived every interview as I published new ones. Eventually, my bandwidth increased and I was able to publish unlimited articles.
The first ‘60s garage content I remember was published in a very primitive website by Hitomi, a woman in Japan. That was very early internet.
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I still have the old forum installed on Fatcow. I just have no idea how to re-activate it. It's not compatible with the current version of PHP or something. One day it just stopped working. The current forum is hosted by Xenforo and I don't have any responsibilites any more. They do everything including backups and maintenance. Here's a screenshot I took today of the old forum file backup on Fatcow.
Anyway, it still exists.
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When I first got on the web circa '96, the first "garage" content I saw was the Elevators pyramid and eye logo on John Ike Walton's drumhead.
This is not the Kopper ran forum is it? THAT one has gold in it indeed. (As has g45 1.0 too of course)
That was the one I was referring too. But g45 1.0 was phenomenal too, natch.
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No I don't have the garagepunk.com forum, I only have g45 1.0.
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I saved a few threads from kopper's Psychotic Reactions forum. Here's one, for a taste. I hope Jeff, Erik, and itellnolies don't mind this posting from 20 years back. Patrick RIP:
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject: ORCHID label (Florida)


I have in my collection the following three 45s on the Florida-based Orchid label:
#503: BANGS - Then I'll cry/Tab Top
#504: MANY OTHERS - (Tell me why) I'm alone/Can I get a witness
#508: PAGANS - Strawman/Your going to lose that girl
According to Jeff L.'s "Savage Lost" book all bands came from the Florida Panhandle. Many Others from Tallahassee were earlier known as The Mystics who did the "Snoopy" 45 on Black Cat (BFTG#2).
Due to a different label lay-out I only discovered today the relation of the BANGS single with the two other 45s.
Dead wax codes (SK4M etc.) learn that the first two 45s were from 1965, while the PAGANS single is from '66.
Surely no five-star killer garage 45s, but I like 'em all. None of these have been included on Psychedelic States - Florida or any other compilation.
Label-numbers suggest that there were more 45s on this label, so I'd like to know if anyone has something to add to this small Orchid label discography.
Maybe Jeff has some more info to share...
erik
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject:

Hey Erik (with thanks to the Amberjacks),
A few more Orchid numbers I can tell you about:
507 RED COATS - You Told A Lie/I'm Going To Tell You About My Baby
511 SUNDAY FUNNIES - Poison Ivy/Just Send Her To Me
6200 TIGHT LITTLE UNIT - (LP) Live At Liberty Lanes
The above three were all by the same group, using different names.
Prewitt Rose is behind all the bands recording on the label. Here's some of what he had to say back in 1994:
"The Red Coats and the Sunday Funnies were the same group. They were from Ripley, Tennessee. The lead singer, Bill Gurley, was 16 years old when I recorded them as the Sunday Funnies, and the rest of the band members were just 15. I recorded that record in Jackson, Tennessee. The Red Coats' record was recorded at Stax Studio in Memphis before I met the group at a Battle of the Bands in Memphis, so I simply issued it on my label but didn't record it.
The only cool thing about the Red Coats' single was the fact that the label was pink with red ink! I never liked anything else about the record, and it didn't sell. In fact, I sold most of the pressings for "Bag O'Tunes" at 5 cents each.
I did like "Poison Ivy" and "Just Send Her To Me", but the record has never become a real collectible. The Pagans record is hard to find. I don't have a copy myself and can't find one, either. It sold well, but I only sold it in Panama City and North Florida, and I didn't distribute it nationally. I had plans to re-record "Strawman" in a recording studio, but the lead singer was shipped out before I could do it. He was in the Air Force station in Panama City, FL. The rest of the band were local high school guys. "Strawman" was recorded "live" in a high school gym in the middle of the basketball court. But the record still went to #1 on the radio in Panama City!
I recorded the Mystics aka Many Others in Memphis, too, but I issued none of the recordings because of a dispute with the group. My relationship with the Mystics was one long dispute, but the Memphis recordings were by far the best. I never got along with the Mystics from day one, and the only group I liked less than The Mystics were the Bangs! But, over all the years, I've liked most of the groups with those two exceptions. I liked the Pagans, and the Rats were the greatest and most fun kids anyone could ever be lucky to work with!
Of course, the Rats are the most famous of all my "garage groups", and that really pleases me, so I guess things do work out in the end sometimes! The Rats were from Akron, Ohio. Sunday Funnies were nice kids, too, and fun, but they were nothing like The Rats when it came to fun! The Rats were The Decades on record first, on a local Akron label. I heard their record on an Akron radio station and got their phone number from the music director of the station, a close friend of mine. I just gave the guys a call, and the rest is history. They were juniors in high school at the time, but they wanted me to be in their group to record. So they talked me into it! They also talked me into writing a song just for them, "The Rats Revenge". It was stupid, but they wanted stupid!"
(He then goes on to speak briefly about managing and recording The Zoo on Parkway Records, but that's getting way off onto a tangent).
Jeff
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Thanks for excellent info & scans... the Tight Little Unit LP was apparently recorded in a bowling alley... I haven't yet heard it.
// Patrick
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:50 am Post subject:

I haven't heard Tight Little Unit, either. That was apparently with a different lead singer than on the Red Coats and Sunday Funnies 45s. Pekora gives it three whatevers in volume one.
Jeff
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:32 am Post subject:

Here's the Red Coats 45.
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There is a nice cover of I Don't Believe by local faves The Guilloteens plus cool fuzzed out covers of garage band standards.It sounds like it was recorded in a bowling alley.Nothing too great but it is the only small label garage lp from this area.Maybe 3 copies known around here.The other Orchid Memphis records also rarely turn up here.
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I have in my collection the following three 45s on the Florida-based Orchid label:
#503: BANGS - Then I'll cry/Tab Top
#504: MANY OTHERS - (Tell me why) I'm alone/Can I get a witness
#508: PAGANS - Strawman/Your going to lose that girl
According to Jeff L.'s "Savage Lost" book all bands came from the Florida Panhandle. Many Others from Tallahassee were earlier known as The Mystics who did the "Snoopy" 45 on Black Cat (BFTG#2).
Due to a different label lay-out I only discovered today the relation of the BANGS single with the two other 45s.
Dead wax codes (SK4M etc.) learn that the first two 45s were from 1965, while the PAGANS single is from '66.
Surely no five-star killer garage 45s, but I like 'em all. None of these have been included on Psychedelic States - Florida or any other compilation.
Label-numbers suggest that there were more 45s on this label, so I'd like to know if anyone has something to add to this small Orchid label discography.
Maybe Jeff has some more info to share...
erik
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject:

Hey Erik (with thanks to the Amberjacks),
A few more Orchid numbers I can tell you about:
507 RED COATS - You Told A Lie/I'm Going To Tell You About My Baby
511 SUNDAY FUNNIES - Poison Ivy/Just Send Her To Me
6200 TIGHT LITTLE UNIT - (LP) Live At Liberty Lanes
The above three were all by the same group, using different names.
Prewitt Rose is behind all the bands recording on the label. Here's some of what he had to say back in 1994:
"The Red Coats and the Sunday Funnies were the same group. They were from Ripley, Tennessee. The lead singer, Bill Gurley, was 16 years old when I recorded them as the Sunday Funnies, and the rest of the band members were just 15. I recorded that record in Jackson, Tennessee. The Red Coats' record was recorded at Stax Studio in Memphis before I met the group at a Battle of the Bands in Memphis, so I simply issued it on my label but didn't record it.
The only cool thing about the Red Coats' single was the fact that the label was pink with red ink! I never liked anything else about the record, and it didn't sell. In fact, I sold most of the pressings for "Bag O'Tunes" at 5 cents each.
I did like "Poison Ivy" and "Just Send Her To Me", but the record has never become a real collectible. The Pagans record is hard to find. I don't have a copy myself and can't find one, either. It sold well, but I only sold it in Panama City and North Florida, and I didn't distribute it nationally. I had plans to re-record "Strawman" in a recording studio, but the lead singer was shipped out before I could do it. He was in the Air Force station in Panama City, FL. The rest of the band were local high school guys. "Strawman" was recorded "live" in a high school gym in the middle of the basketball court. But the record still went to #1 on the radio in Panama City!
I recorded the Mystics aka Many Others in Memphis, too, but I issued none of the recordings because of a dispute with the group. My relationship with the Mystics was one long dispute, but the Memphis recordings were by far the best. I never got along with the Mystics from day one, and the only group I liked less than The Mystics were the Bangs! But, over all the years, I've liked most of the groups with those two exceptions. I liked the Pagans, and the Rats were the greatest and most fun kids anyone could ever be lucky to work with!
Of course, the Rats are the most famous of all my "garage groups", and that really pleases me, so I guess things do work out in the end sometimes! The Rats were from Akron, Ohio. Sunday Funnies were nice kids, too, and fun, but they were nothing like The Rats when it came to fun! The Rats were The Decades on record first, on a local Akron label. I heard their record on an Akron radio station and got their phone number from the music director of the station, a close friend of mine. I just gave the guys a call, and the rest is history. They were juniors in high school at the time, but they wanted me to be in their group to record. So they talked me into it! They also talked me into writing a song just for them, "The Rats Revenge". It was stupid, but they wanted stupid!"
(He then goes on to speak briefly about managing and recording The Zoo on Parkway Records, but that's getting way off onto a tangent).
Jeff
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:20 am Post subject:

Thanks for excellent info & scans... the Tight Little Unit LP was apparently recorded in a bowling alley... I haven't yet heard it.
// Patrick
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JeffMiami
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:50 am Post subject:

I haven't heard Tight Little Unit, either. That was apparently with a different lead singer than on the Red Coats and Sunday Funnies 45s. Pekora gives it three whatevers in volume one.
Jeff
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JeffMiami
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:32 am Post subject:

Here's the Red Coats 45.
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:17 pm Post subject:


There is a nice cover of I Don't Believe by local faves The Guilloteens plus cool fuzzed out covers of garage band standards.It sounds like it was recorded in a bowling alley.Nothing too great but it is the only small label garage lp from this area.Maybe 3 copies known around here.The other Orchid Memphis records also rarely turn up here.
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