Rich Strauss
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Oops! My bad! Thanks for pointing that out. I fixed the problem. You can now hear "I Gotta Go Now". I prefer "Tell Her". Maybe that's why I put it up twice!
-- Rich
Might thy aural newbies tickle my eye
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Oops! My bad! Thanks for pointing that out. I fixed the problem. You can now hear "I Gotta Go Now". I prefer "Tell Her". Maybe that's why I put it up twice!
-- Rich
Rich Strauss
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They do sound similar to the 45s on MGM by Jonathon's Experience. I'll bet it's the same band.
Thanks!
-- Rich
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...all gems to my ears... thanks a lot for sharing Rich!
legbarecords
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Holy Cow, I love "tell her"! Wish that was a record cause I'd be lookin' for it. Thanks again Rich!
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Old dudes in 2011 = failing / inaccurate memory. I would think somebody as thorough with research as yourself would not automatically "buy" someone's recollections.
Copyright, newsprint articles and myself (plus others) spoke with members back in the '80s. Sutton is a town southeast of the Worcester area. The songs were submitted for copyright in Feb. 1965. Both writers lived in Sutton MA. The vocal on "Dance All Night" has a slightly affected British accent as well.
I have to look for my cassette, but it has 8 songs or so. I got it from another collector in the Worcester area. I know about Mass Commonwealth as well, but AAA studio tapes are long gone / destroyed, discarded by the owner.
George probably has one as well, via Larry or Michael (whatever happened to Larry?)
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This is interesting...."Tell Her" also exists on an Audiodisc acetate, shown as "Tell Her It's Me" but credited to Renaissance Picnic. Dallas / Ft. Worth region, but unverified location. Rich's copy looks like it has pasted over labels, so the group must've changed their moniker / name.
Frantic
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Mikey...I talked to Mike G last night. He swears it was recorded 1 1/2 years before it was released. It sounds it too. He said they shopped it around forever to get a label to release it and then realized much later that they would have to release it themselves on their own Personal label. Almost a rockabilly feel to it. Automatically buy it? I'm just repeating what the guy told me. So since that's what Mike told me, that's all I have to go by. He seemed to have a photographic memory...Maybe you need to talk to him.
Rich Strauss
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This is indeed interesting. Yes, my acetate's labels are pasted over the stock audiodisc labels. The 2 songs on the acetate sound earlier than the MGM 45s. I believe that I'm Gonna Make It / Come Back came out in Nov 67 & Mixed-up Foolish Girl/Only Sixteen came out in Mar 68. So the acetate is probably the point that the changed their name.
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Mikey...I talked to Mike G last night. He swears it was recorded 1 1/2 years before it was released. It sounds it too. He said they shopped it around forever to get a label to release it and then realized much later that they would have to release it themselves on their own Personal label. Almost a rockabilly feel to it. Automatically buy it? I'm just repeating what the guy told me. So since that's what Mike told me, that's all I have to go by. He seemed to have a photographic memory...Maybe you need to talk to him.
Don't need to talk to him, I did way back in 1992/3 along with John and one other guy.
Lots of '50s influenced "rockers" were recorded smack-dab in the Brit Invasion / post '64 era.
Wanna another example of guys who have their own history recollections clouded by "record collector infamy" and praise after the fact? The Swanks "Ghost Train". Killer guitar rocker, reverb tank on 10. Rockabilly collectors so WANTED that 45 to have been recorded and released in the '50s. But the label logo looked "later". The label owner has the masters for the Charm label - he was hit up repeatedly for copies in the olden days, drooling rockabilly collectors telling him how great the record is, and offered him $10 for copies. When asked when he put the 45 out, he couldn't remember, but he said "1964", so that stuck for years. Even the bandmembers couldn't really remember exactly, which always amazes me.
When I got a copy around 5 years ago, I saw that it was a Wakefield Pressing from, get this, 1968. November to be precise. In that age of the 1910 Fruitgum Company, Cream and Hendrix, here was this behind the times frantic instro rocker. Copyright search verified the date as well. But the owner and band still insist on 1964.
Moral - Just because *you* were there and involved nearly 50 years ago, that doesn't mean your memory is 100% accurate. Written facts have to back it up. I still run into the guitarist for the Roadrunners, a Connecticut group who recorded four songs at Syncron Sound in 1966 (aka Trod Nossel) that never came out - just 5 copies cut as reference masters on acetates. Only one set was found. The guy still claims the songs were recorded in 1962. Written documentation proves otherwise, yet he still insists his memory is CORRECT.
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Do you recall when and where you obtained this disc, Rich? I can't find out who ended up with the Renaissance Picnic acetate, it was on a list from Hanners and Shutt back in the 80s. Doug used to offer cassettes of songs he selected from his auction and sales lists, so people could listen before buying. I think he only offered cassettes in lists from 1987, 1988 and 1989. "Tell Her It's Me" is on one of those, and that's how I first heard the song back then.
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I got it from Don Kirsch probably 30 years ago for the princely sum of $8. How it ended up in Tacoma, Washington, I have no idea.
-- Rich
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some 45's I got this couple of months...nothin' rare just wants...
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And last but not least....
i would've wanted better condition on the Jujus and J,J&H record but oh well...
i would've wanted better condition on the Jujus and J,J&H record but oh well...
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Got this recently, really enjoying it. Never heard of it before. Anyone know where they were from/who they were? And what a fantastic band name!
Try the link at the bottom for an audio sip, old link still up for both sides
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260800513120
Try the link at the bottom for an audio sip, old link still up for both sides
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260800513120
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I was thinking how could ANOTHER version of "Reach Out" be necessary? I wouldn't call this one necessary, but it's not bad.
Seems that half-blind chicanos with squeeze boxes from the Valley aren't the only ones to corner the market on okay remakes of overdone Motown hits.
And great band name...
Seems that half-blind chicanos with squeeze boxes from the Valley aren't the only ones to corner the market on okay remakes of overdone Motown hits.
And great band name...
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This one has been on my radar for some time. Managed to obtain a copy this month.
'The Modern Era' is a mournful folk jangler with their version of 'I'll Feel A Whole Lot Better' on the other side.
The Unknowns appear to have been Byrds obsessives
Bet that's a groovy one to watch spinning at 45...
Westex
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Dug through a bunch of fake polynesian and jazz-lite lps before finding this....
1964 possibly. Maybe 1965. One sided. 5 Piece Dallas combo. Like a Texas version of a Justice lp. "Roll Over Beethoven", "Outer Limits", "Twist and Shout" in a Beatles mode, and a couple of instros round it off. Not mindblowing. Not even close to original, though the group turns in one of the more interesting versions of "Long Tall Texan" I've heard.
Assume there is a The Invaders #2 out there... somewhere.
For 5 bucks I got it and two different Vogue "How To Rhumba" picture disc sets.
1964 possibly. Maybe 1965. One sided. 5 Piece Dallas combo. Like a Texas version of a Justice lp. "Roll Over Beethoven", "Outer Limits", "Twist and Shout" in a Beatles mode, and a couple of instros round it off. Not mindblowing. Not even close to original, though the group turns in one of the more interesting versions of "Long Tall Texan" I've heard.
Assume there is a The Invaders #2 out there... somewhere.
For 5 bucks I got it and two different Vogue "How To Rhumba" picture disc sets.
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January got off to a good start with (too) many new additions, some having reached my pad already
Top three having been bought locally in an actual record store (gasp)
The Liminanas being some current band I know nothing about but liked, + the recent Last Laugh re-issues of KBD goodies. Last Laugh does a stellar job of re-issuing KBD 45s and is highly recommended!
This Pla Me goodie can now snuggle comfortably next to The Oceans. Re-united at last
Since the 70s have become my new hunting grounds I became obsessed with owning this & thank God we have eBay and automated searches. Killer cool guitar, rough sounding riffing and more riffing. The vocals might not be the groups strongest asset but they work out OK. Is this Dick St.John singing, the same who had 45s for Dot and Philips in the 60s? Flip is a Led Zep cover (apparently, never heard it, not a big fan) with such a bad vocal job I laughed hard the first time I heard it.
Was finally able to buy this Knickerbocker 45, having illuded me for years! Absolutely stunning 2-sider in immaculate conditon. Crispcrispcrisp labels (why do I even have a girlfriend?!) The only one I still haven't owned by this bunch is the first one, which is proving quite hard to find (subtle wants ad)
Top three having been bought locally in an actual record store (gasp)
The Liminanas being some current band I know nothing about but liked, + the recent Last Laugh re-issues of KBD goodies. Last Laugh does a stellar job of re-issuing KBD 45s and is highly recommended!
This Pla Me goodie can now snuggle comfortably next to The Oceans. Re-united at last
Since the 70s have become my new hunting grounds I became obsessed with owning this & thank God we have eBay and automated searches. Killer cool guitar, rough sounding riffing and more riffing. The vocals might not be the groups strongest asset but they work out OK. Is this Dick St.John singing, the same who had 45s for Dot and Philips in the 60s? Flip is a Led Zep cover (apparently, never heard it, not a big fan) with such a bad vocal job I laughed hard the first time I heard it.
Was finally able to buy this Knickerbocker 45, having illuded me for years! Absolutely stunning 2-sider in immaculate conditon. Crispcrispcrisp labels (why do I even have a girlfriend?!) The only one I still haven't owned by this bunch is the first one, which is proving quite hard to find (subtle wants ad)
