My latest blog - help appreciated - PROTO-PUNK!

[Lee de Parade]

The Skin & Wax Museum was new and very interesting, not to mention Doug McDade & Purple People!

 

[Lee de Parade]

Right now I am trying to build a case in my mind on Germany's kraut and prog scene being just as important as.. lez say, Kingston, Jamaica.

And more than that Eddie Cochran inspiration that I only hear in God Save The Queen & Neat Neat Neat.

Proto-punk gets more confusing the further I penetrate the dense jungle, the more camps I set up, the more tests I run - the deeper the mystery gets.

 

[Frantic]

Right now I am trying to build a case in my mind on Germany's kraut and prog scene being just as important as.. lez say, Kingston, Jamaica.

And more than that Eddie Cochran inspiration that I only hear in God Save The Queen & Neat Neat Neat.

Proto-punk gets more confusing the further I penetrate the dense jungle, the more camps I set up, the more tests I run - the deeper the mystery gets.

And the more you bounce off the walls of G45 Central:confused:

 

[depravedskippy66]

Lee, have you picked up the Bold Chicken EP? Buzz Clic, pre-Rubber City Rebels, recorded circa '72-'73. Should be right up yer alley!

 

[depravedskippy66]

Cannot forget Les Rallizes Denudes. Any band who takes part in hijacking a plane to go to North Korea has to be pretty fucking punk, in my opinion.

 

[Lee de Parade]

Dynamite, Brothers, dynamite!

 

[Mr.Segment]

Including Les Rallizes Denudes opens a can of worms. Sure, they make a racket. But so does AMM and Machine Gun era Brötzmann, so where to draw the line? I look at Rallizes more like an art/improv group, more so than any "real" band with rawk moves.

 

[Frantic]

Including Les Rallizes Denudes opens a can of worms. Sure, they make a racket. But so does AMM and Machine Gun era Brötzmann, so where to draw the line? I look at Rallizes more like an art/improv group, more so than any "real" band with rawk moves.

I agree. They don't belong.

 

[depravedskippy66]

Including Les Rallizes Denudes opens a can of worms. Sure, they make a racket. But so does AMM and Machine Gun era Brötzmann, so where to draw the line? I look at Rallizes more like an art/improv group, more so than any "real" band with rawk moves.

Guess we agree to disagree, Thomas as I would say that Rallizes definitely have rock moves.

While AMM did indeed play on the same bill with many UK Psych bands, particularly at UFO, they approached their music from an academic/intellectual angle, with absolutely no roots in rock whatsoever. Brotzmann being a free-jazz artist where the energy is very much similar to that of rock but, then again, no one would mistake Machine Gun for a rock album of the same era. Necessary distinctions need to be made between the three.

 

[Frantic]

Guess we agree to disagree, Thomas as I would say that Rallizes definitely have rock moves.

While AMM did indeed play on the same bill with many UK Psych bands, particularly at UFO, they approached their music from an academic/intellectual angle, with absolutely no roots in rock whatsoever. Brotzmann being a free-jazz artist where the energy is very much similar to that of rock but, then again, no one would mistake Machine Gun for a rock album of the same era. Necessary distinctions need to be made between the three.

But they aren't proto-punk.

 

[Frantic]

How 'bout these heavies?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=U4KnOFDxW0c#

 

[axel]

Some amazing stuff here. I hadn't notice before. Listening to Yoko Ono next to the Troggs was a treat. Zolar X and Debris are probably the most appropriately called "proto-punk" I ever heard. Thanks for this lesson in pop history.
Des Rallizes Nudes are one of a kind I think. They're neither proto-punk nor prog rock or anything. They're a ritual cult for the worship of the fuzz sound. No songs, no rhythm, or not much of it- just walls and mountains and clouds and rivers of fuzz. Very stylish, too. I don't listen to them but I love them just the same.

 

[axel]

Oh, and "London Calling" is a total rip of "Dead Man Calling", right? The chords, the melody, the vocal sound, even the title- everything! That's mind-boggling.

 

[axel]

A comment to the Panty Liners says: "good band but the starter of punk music los saicos - el gato mayor, los saicos - demolicion. LIma, Peru 1964. check it out"

Well, I'm sure EVERYBODY here knows Los Saicos. I didn't. If you didn't, too, you have to check it out. My goodness! This is more Back From The Grave than Back From The Grave itself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxxKmTFTzQk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayFJeT2qzoU

 

[Lee de Parade]

Oh, and "London Calling" is a total rip of "Dead Man Calling", right? The chords, the melody, the vocal sound, even the title- everything! That's mind-boggling.

Dead Man Calling? Never heard!

My attempts at blogging came to a halt after some constructive creteeec from friends and morons.
Fact is, nobody was really checking it out so the half-ass project fell down the toilet.
That, and that good protopunk is pretty scarce. There's a bundle of heavy rock and early metal, but cool stuff like Figures of Light, Creme Soda, Death & Coloured Balls are really hard (for me) to come by.

 

[axel]

"Dead Man Calling" is the Panty Liners' track that Frantic posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=famMJ-2Aduw

 

[Lee de Parade]

That is a joke song.

 

[axel]

Ah, okay. I was wondering...