Shiver me TBMbers! The Great Comp Showdown Thread!

Lee de Parade

Lee de Parade

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That makes no sense.

Time to make some dumb use of TBM for me, as a sort of a..first kiss. I need to be occupied when reading or else I do not understand the writing, the sentences or any meaning. I'm like that.

And what should I start off with if not the gargantuan 5th level of the sacred Pebbledom? A lot cheaper as a comp, but if you're looking for the original 45s, it is on an scientological level.
(Oops, wrote 'level' twice and while stating that fact - thrice) ONWARDS!!

I shall down consult the Holy Tome and decipher the ancient glyphs and the add and divide. Wish me luck that no mummy curse comes and gets me!

(Oh - is Magi even IN the TBM?)

And after a coupla weeks or so we should get the result - The Most Exquisite Comp Of All.
Which comp should I do after Pebbles 5? BFTG 5?
 
Back From The Grave Vol. 1 Musical Impact Factor = 7,6667
Back From The Grave Vol. 5 Musical Impact Factor = 7,5625
Chosen Few Vol. 1 Musical Impact Factor = 8,6667 (1st position)
Chosen Few Vol. 2 Musical Impact Factor = 7,5294
Everywhere Chainsaw Sound Musical Impact Factor = 5,6250
Flashback Vol. 5 Musical Impact Factor = 7,0625
Off The Wall Vol. 1 Musical Impact Factor = 6,8235
Off The Wall Vol. 2 Musical Impact Factor = 7,3750
Pebbles Vol. 2 Musical Impact Factor = 7,8000 (3rd position)
Pebbles Vol. 5 Musical Impact Factor = 8,0625 (2nd Position)
Pebbles Vol. 9 Musical Impact Factor = 7.2019
Pebbles Vol. 10 Musical Impact Factor = 6.6688
Pennsylvania Unknowns Musical Impact Factor = 5.6667
Psychedelic Disaster Whirl Musical Impact Factor = 7,0769
 
Ok, that was a little bit surprising but hey - can't argue with he pro's. And I think I agree.
I'll be doing this till I get bored but now it is toilet time!
 
last_heard : yup, and that is what I believe I did. Pebbles got around..129 I believe, divided by..16? BFTG got 121. :cool:
Patrick : yes, what a nice idea! :) I'd have to look into that screwed-up-track-list-thingie tho.
 
Wow, lookadat! Chosen Few Vol. 1 goes straight to the TOP with a whopping 8,6667 points!
I won't say I'm surprised, but that was just beautiful!
 
Aoooo, Off The Wall Vol 1 just tries to do too much and totally wipes out in the process! I guess putting both sides of the pedestrian garage of Peter & the Wolves was not that good a choice..
Another thing - that is kind of unfair - is that OTW has 18 songs on it, CF had only 14 which of only 12 where tallied.
I am sad to say that OTW crosses the finishing line with a dissapointing score of 6,8235 and thus is last atm.
 
I really had high hopes for PDW, I even thought it could have a chance to win! But no.. they didn't even get too close of a look at the bronze medal as they finish at 7,0769.
And this was the punkadelics highest hope! Who will save psych now?
 
Lee,

What you are doing crossed my mind over the past few years - which comp or comps truly are the "best"? I can tally the scores from the decimal mean per each tune, as this would yield a realistic result.
I did not penalize a comp if a track is not rated / listed in TBM (The Magi, for instance) - I would just divide by the sum total of the tally by number of rated songs.

Tomorrow, I'll start with the original Nuggets, and the first batch of Pebbles comps
 
I'll be honest here...the only comps I own (besides In Dan's Garage, which doesn't really count) are Pebbles Volume 9 and Volume 10. I don't like them that much, and not just because of the sound quality issues.
 
HarvestmanMan said:
I'll be honest here...the only comps I own (besides In Dan's Garage, which doesn't really count) are Pebbles Volume 9 and Volume 10. I don't like them that much, and not just because of the sound quality issues.
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You might as well just give up trying to like 60s garage as it's obviously not for.
I've just checked the tracklist for both comps and I'm sorry to tell you that you've got NO taste if you don't like them much.

PEBBLES – VOLUME 9

1. The Free-For-All - Show Me The Way
2. Byron & The Mortals - Do You Believe Me
3. The Endd - Out Of My Hands
4. The Knaves - The Girl I Threw Away
5. The Bugs - Pretty Girl
6. The Bucaneers - You're Never Gonna Love Me Anymore
7. The Beckett Quintet - No Correspondence
8. The Outsiders - I'm Not Trying To Hurt You

1. The Gestures - Run, Run, Run
2. Bold - Gotta Get Some
3. The Banshees - Project Blue
4. New Colony Six - At The River's Edge
5. Beethoven's Fifth - Come Down
6. It's All Meat - Feel It
7. The Bad Roads - Too Bad
8. The Bad Roads - Blue Girl

PEBBLES – VOLUME 10

1. The Next Five - Talk To Me Girl
2. The Moonrakers - You'll Come Back
3. Peter Wheat & The Breadmen - Baby What's New
4. The Marauders - Since I Met You
5. The Ides Of March - Roller Coaster
6. The Foggy Notions - Need A Little Lovin'
7. The Ugly Ducklings - Just In Case You Wonder
8. Raga & The Talas - My Group And Me

1. Leo & The Prophets - Tilt-A-Whirl
2. The Human Expression - Love At Psychedelic Velocity
3. The Wig/Wags - I'm On My Way Down The Road
5. Things To Come - I'm Not Talkin'
6. The Five Americans - Slippin' And Slidin'
7. The Groupies - Primitive
8. The Brogues - Don't Shoot Me Down
 
Mr Harvest might be a serious collector, and he might have been taken by the general dislike for Pebbles that was somewhat active back when - you know, poor SQ and such.

I have nothing but utmost respect for the serious collectors that largely make up this forum.
Then again, I feel that I represent the more laid back diggers who think comps suffice.
Heck, I must say that the whole comp-scene is more fascinating than the actual 60s scene that it is honouring.

I look at Greg Shaw, Tim Warren, MTM, BossHoss, JJ, Tony the Tiger, Dave of the Boulders Series etc as these awesome DJs with this taste. It says more to me than the individual discs.

Might stem back from when I was a small kid and was totally haunted by the radio and its mysterious sounds.

MTM - I'm doing just that, I only divide by the songs tallied.
And I also getting a bit interested in doing a little fanzine on the best comps (of the 1st, 2nd and 3rd waves) with some stories of how they came to be and such.

Might try and get UT interested too! ;)

Love yall brothers and sisters!
 
I didn't really get what you're trying to do here, but if it is finding out a best of comp list, I gotta say if BFTG 1 is not reaching the Top 5 the project is not worth the effort.
 
Actually, what Lee is doing makes perfect sense, it's a first degree derivative off the TBM ratings mapped against a population of good old vinyl comps.

Sorry to hear about Off The Wall vol 1, and I agree the Peter & The Wolves 45 is a weak spot. However, I think OTW #2 is better than #1, so give that one a ratings shot, along with Chosen Few vol 2. Didn't think of it first, but the frequent Canadian inclusions screw things up a bit.

Not really surprised about Psychedelic Disaster Whirl; I'm sure the garage guys like most of it but not in the reverential way that us acidp*nks do.

TBM in a nutshell: Chocolate Tunnel's unique, satirical and atmospheric "Ostrich People" gets a "3". Chevelle V's routine frat-garage rocker "Come Back Bird" gets an "8". :cool:
 
Counting the score of the individual singles, is only one approach is to determine which collection is best.
just as with the G45 list, you have a legendary status, demand and also how good their sound quality, liners, pictures etc. are...
So if you only count the scores of songs on BFTG one, it will probably not reach number one. It might even get beat by an old volume of The Boulders Series!

There is nooo question that BFTG is one of the world absolute most important garage comps ever. But that is another study that is far more difficult and abstract than counting numbers in a book.

One should almost look at these beautiful old comps like pieces of art - and music history! And individual pieces of art at that!
I rank the strangeness of Dave Gibson's persona just as high as the wildness of Tim Warren's. Or Billy Synth's for that matter!
They are all just as important - NOW! that is, when we can look back and enjoy these fanboy labors of love.
 
Off The Wall #2 gets a solid 7,3750.
Chosen Few #2 gets a whiff of BFTG 5's candy but falls short (if Brain Train woulda get a more well deserved 7 instead of a 6, things would've looked differently..) and ends up with 7,5294.

I have to say THANKS FOR THE MISTAKES/MISPRINTS and such, MTM! Each time I see that black ball pen correcting an OH to FL, or a '66 to a feb '67...it feels like autographs or something. Like a living document.
I bet the third press (and prob flawless) won't feel this personal. :)
 
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