Shiver me TBMbers! The Great Comp Showdown Thread!

MopTopMike said:
This is not a 10 in the World of Studio Psych - I'll keep that esteemed rating for "Trip #76 (Deep).
This track certainly doesn't approach that cailber. I'd give it a solid 6.
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Sorry Mike, this is the Acid-O-Meter, and other parameters apply. "Take Me For A Ride" is a legendary monster among drug fiends around the world. "Trip #76" is a piece of annoying racket in comparison. :cool:

Such fine points aside, are you (or anyone) able to deduct anything worthwhile from the Fridays Keepers label above? AFAIK this is the first copy *ever* to surface, although I suspect stray copies may be sitting uncared for in big garage collector/hoarder attics due to its the psuckadelic nature.
 
I'm sure there are more copies out there. The label has a few noteworthy releases, including a sought-after soul 45. I can investigate
I guess you need to ingest drugs to hear "Take Me For A ride" as a 10 rating. Even if I was feelin' the light fantastic it would only rate a 6, even on the best trip, nostalgia for long lost days of spinning comps notwithstanding...
 
Mike must've failed to grasp the ridiculously high "Stomach Toxin Release" and "Brain Mush Inducement" factors.

I also noticed in the Need2OwnIt forum, a discussion where a forum member recently sold a copy of this 45. So maybe it's around to some extent.
 
Wow, I think it is really trippy and cool. But the sound is nauseating. A lot of cool psych suffers from that.
 
sylvain said:
did you get the weird (and useless) green cardboard magic cube that was originally offered with the flexi back then ? If not, I'll post some pics of it in my forthcoming AD post.
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Can't believe I've kept this around through 30 years and 3 apartment moves.


Did anyone ever figure out how to refold it so it would fit back inside the cover without destroying it (upper left corner is result of my one attempt long ago)?
 
soundog III said:
S.O.T.E. originated in Ohio, no? Certainly enough collectors active there then to conjure those mondopieces...
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Yes, and I was recently given some pics of a visit we made to the compiler in 1983 not long before the comp came out. That's how I recall getting some of the story behind it, although my memory is not that clear. You could also say that BFTG vol 1 originated in Ohio, but I've already talked about that numerous times.
 
please OMIT this post it was a weird glitch in my phone. sorry

sylvain said:
BACK FROM THE GRAVE VOL.1

Tim Warren :
« Graves were just me and (early on) my wife Caroline helping out. i borrowed $800 from Chandler to help press Grave 2 i think, that's it.
i had to fund the first 5 volumes by borrowing $ from friends, Bruce Planty, my mom, etc and i'd pay a ridiculous $500 interest in thanks for the loans.
The Grave 1 was created cos i was sick of all the shitty "groovy 60s" comps coming out with bubblegum & psych & major-label "studio group" imitations all mixed together with garage punk cuts, and i just wanted to portray the TEEN band side of things. »

Billy Miller :
« I had gotten Tim into buying small label 45s and he got heavily into it right away. When he and Caroline went on their honeymoon (1982 or 83), he planned on driving around to the midwest and see what records he could find. Miriam and I gave him a few contacts and he got more elsewhere. I told him to call me whenever he found something. He called almost every day with amazing stuff - the Alarm Clocks, One Way Streets - and when he returned he was a professional. For the next few years, he was the best at tracking bands and maintaining quality when he put them out again. »

Erik Lindgren :
« I remember the day mastering BFTG #1 and was totally blown away at hearing the Swamp Rats "Psycho" which I had never heard before. That day, I swapped Tim my copy of the Sonic Inc. "Diddy Wah Diddy" (which I found in a junk store in Iowa back in the mid '70s) and we were both happy with the deal. Turns out he got the much rarer single (which I think is Taylor's #1 garage rarity on his G45 list) but I still think the Rats' cover of "Psycho" blows it away musically and is one of the wildest garage punk tracks ever recorded.
I don't have the glow in the dark lettering on my two first edition copies (one is sealed) which Tim gave to me back then. Had no idea he did that--how cool!!! Tim is one of my favorite people on the planet and totally off the charts wacko--my hero!
Speaking of the bonus track ... we tossed that on as a joke on the first pressing of 1000 discs. That was actually a version that I produced in '78 that included Jeff Connolly (DMZ/Lyres) on vocals, Roger Miller (later of Mission of Burma) on bass and lead guitar, Boby Bear on drums (he played with Roger, Clint Conley and me in the pre-MOB Boston art punk band Moving Parts), and myself on guitar and piano. Don't think many people know about the cut nor the personnel involved. We got a good chuckle out of including that mystery track... »

Here are the various editions I could come accross, and the sequence of their outcome, as I figure it. I’ve questioned TW about this but he has no real recollections ... If you own a version not featured below, please lemme know.
This list is frightening, but it's not just a dumb "stamp-collection" kind of thing: I usually don't care much of reissues for garage comps, but those variations are just some I happened to find when I was on the hunt for 60s garage comps, and I found it funny to follow TW in his quest onto what would be, in his own mind, the definitive, final version of this seminal piece of garage history. Looks like the 1986 edition was finally THEE one, as I didn't notice any new ones, ...but maybe am I wrong.
I have no clues of how many copies were released for each edition (apart for the 1st), and how many times each edition was repressed.
I've been trying to retrieve some old messages from Tim regarding the glowing edition, once posted in the old garage punk forum, but they seem lost forever. There was also the funny story of Tim and Caroline packing all their BFTG stock in their old car heading to Germany... I didn't manage to retrieve it neither.
I'll be back later-on about that all, with a focus on the strange BFTG-related "GARAGE KINGS" project and release

First edition : 1983
500 copies,
66 copies w/ hand-painted lettering, glow-in-the-dark white paint (mail order only), rumoured as a tribute to the early Cramps 7’’s
Hidden bonus track end of side 2 (« The Witch »)
CRYPT RR-66
Subtitle : 17 Rockin’ 1966 Punkers !
Track listing :
Side 1
1. The One Way Street - We All Love Peanut Butter
2. The Alarm Clocks - Yeah
3. The Alarm Clocks - No Reason To Complain
4. The Fabs - That's The Bag I'm In
5. The JuJus - Do You Understand Me
6. The Malibu's - Cry
7. The Legends - I'll Come Again
8. The Bel-Aires - Ya Ha Be Be

Side 2
1. Larry & The Blue Notes - Night Of The Phantom
2. The Rats - The Rats Revenge (Part 1)
3. The Rats - The Rats Revenge (Part 2)
4. The One Way Street - Jack The Ripper
5. The Swamp Rats - Psycho
6. The Cords - Ghost Power
7. The Elite - My Confusion
8. Thee Liars - The Witch (hidden track)


My "glowing" signed copy :cool:



"Normal" non-glow first ed.





Second edition :
No date of release (but 1983 or 1984)
French pressing on the Voxygrave label (Crypt Rds, 6 Rue Saint Benoît, 75006 Paris)
CR 6601, laminated sleeve
Subtitle : Rockin’ 1966 Punkers !
No bonus track
Track listing
Side 1
1. The Elite - My Confusion
2. The JuJus - Do You Understand Me
3. The Alarm Clocks - Yeah
4. The Alarm Clocks - No Reason To Complain
5. The Fabs - That's The Bag I'm In
6. The Malibu's - Cry
7. The Bel-Aires - Ya Ha Be Be
8. The Legends - I'll Come Again

Side 2
1. The Rats - The Rats Revenge (Part 1)
2. The Rats - The Rats Revenge (Part 2)
3. The One Way Street - We All Love Peanut Butter
4. Larry & The Blue Notes - Night Of The Phantom
5. The One Way Street - Jack The Ripper
6. The Swamp Rats - Psycho
7. The Cords - Ghost Power









Third edition :
1984
US pressing (Crypt Rds, Box 9151, Morristown, NJ 07960)
CRYPT 001
Subtitle : Rockin’ 1966 Punkers !
Track listing : idem 2nd press







Fourth edition :
1985
US pressing (Crypt Rds, Box 9151, Morristown, NJ 07960)
CRYPT 001
Subtitle : Rockin’ 60’s Punkers !
No more liners on back sleeve, insert
Track listing : idem 2nd pressing, but changes « The One Way Street » into « One Way Streets »











Fifth edition :
No date (but 1985 or 1986)
From now on, sleeves display some blue color, and a bar-code on back sleeve
CR 001
Subtitle : Rockin’ 1966 Punkers !
Insert (unfortunatly missing in my copy, but mentioned on the back sleeve)
Track listing : idem 3rd pressing
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I remember buying Psychedelic Unknowns Volume 7 back in the 80s and was surprised with the red DJ sleeve and lack of info...
But your information explains everything and the reasoning behind this.

Over the years I've bought all of the Get Hip re-issues with artwork but I actually prefer the DIY approach of the DJ sleeve better.

Your knowledge and stories about these 'legendary' 80s comps are a delight. They should definately be in a book or at the very least a fanzine.
 
Thanks for the solid info on Psychedelic Unknowns, a neat series that followed its own path and wasn't afraid to drop White Whale label 45s into the mix, as long as the music was enjoyable. Lots of good, moody lyte-psych scattered across the later volumes, while the early ones are packed with classic garage. I still have almost all volumes.

My only comment is that the expanded vol 3 is later than 1985 -- I have a vague recollection of it arriving at the same time as vol 8, which would be 1986 at the earliest. My gut feeling is that both vol 8 and the expanded vol 3 are later than '86 though, more like '87-88. I recall being disappointed with the mastering on both volumes, which was really thin and non-dynamic.
 
Really enjoying this long overdue classic comp expose. Brings back memories for me from 1978/9 when shipments arrived at White Light Records from Bomp every month, containing bunches of these comps (including Pebbles Vol. 1 first issue), as well as records and fanzines. We used to rip the shipments open in the middle of the store, with frantic customers milling around, battling with staff to grab the limited quantities of awesome stuff. It was crazed.

60s garage and 70s punk were not segregated in those days. Both were part of the same scene (at least at White Light they were!). By 1980, postpunk and new wave trendies would spoil all that. Mostly they just did not understand garage music. It was too "rockist" for them, not arty or political, and therefore uncool. But a new generation of garage fiends was beginning to emerge...

And thankfully, the comps kept coming! I still have a few from those days...in the unlikely event that Sylvain does not cover them, I will post some scans later on.
 
Heitkotter77 said:
Can't believe I've kept this around through 30 years and 3 apartment moves.


Did anyone ever figure out how to refold it so it would fit back inside the cover without destroying it (upper left corner is result of my one attempt long ago)?
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:lol:
Yeah, I probably tried and failed. I'm sure this thing didn't even make the move out of my parent's place... Nice to see it again after all these years.

This thread is amazing. I'm trying hard to catch up with all the pictures and infos. It also brings back memories...
Did I miss the Acid Dreams story or is it yet to come?
 
Thanks for the French comp archeology, Sylvain. One minor thing: Patrick C actually claimed to be behind Journey To The East when I was in contact with him recently, so I think he had at least part in that one, even if the label wasn't his. Possibly he compiled it but the other guy released it on Spangle... Patrick is still a very active collector and buys a lot of Acid Archives stuff. One of my favorite customers in fact!:)
 
The 80's compilers obsession with "acid" and "psychedelic" is fscking pathetic.

"Psychedelic Tryps Into The Tunnel of Acid Thru Tyme" vol 36. Yawn.
 
Just for a goof, here's this:

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BTW Cally was (is?) a really nice guy. Had the pleasure to meet him at Julian's wedding. Post Parry Thomas, as i recall...
 
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