Shiver me TBMbers! The Great Comp Showdown Thread!

as discussed before: Vol.1 & 2 were also booted in Germany in the 80s, original "artwork", but flimsy cover and no numbering from the source (possibly from some crooked dealer, though).
 
Again, great stuff, Sylvain!
Just out of curiosity: Is there a 'holy grail' U.S. comp that you haven't been able to find? :)
 
sylvain said:
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200 aint a huge print run, right, but $21 for a comp in 1980 must have looked like a fortune. In my envious mind I imagine you could have picked up "24 hrs everyday" AND "i'm in pittsburg" for the asking price at every street corner back then.
 
Flashback is an incredible series IMO, by far the best regional comp series made... admittedly biased by the size of TX population and the presence of several early collectors who had the trip figured out already in the '70s.

The US bootlegs of vol 1 and 2 came from JD at Midnight and they were awful, with audible noise from the source record player used when "mastering" the pieces of crap. I remember how glad I was when the Antar repros came out, not only did they sound good but they looked alright too. I recently landed an original of Flashback vol 3, which is my favorite in the series, but otherwise the Antar trip works for me.

Less agreeable is that total crap GONE series. Even back then c1986 I knew they were some kind of ripoff. The guy behind them may be a nice chap, but he wasn't very smart when doing these boots. First off he took a track that only existed as an acetate (The Sheep) which led one to suspect he was simply taping another comp. Secondly, he managed to transfer a track list error from one of the early Cicadelic comps, when he lifted "I Saw What You Did" which is wrongly credited to the Nomads on the original Cicadelic comp. Sensing that something was wrong, Mr GONE then decided to alter the credit from the inaccurate "Nomads" to the unparalleled "Madson", an anagram of Nomads! Lord knows what was going on in Mr GONE's head at the time. The correct credit for the track is (of course) the Olivers.

I remember discussing this curious track list error with Mark Prellberg when I was working on the Age Of Madness book circa 1990. His take was that the only correct credit was the Olivers and that the guy behind the Gone comps really was GONE. I went along with these assertions and have despised the GONE comps ever since. At least Mayhem & Psychosis had good sound and was taped from original 45s (I think) even if the selection displayed almost zero creativity.

Oh yeah, regarding T.A.R... they did 2 excellent, legit Elevators releases of unreleased material, another one with the Wig. Too bad they couldn't find any tapes from the legendary "lost" Austin band the Babycakes.

After T.A.R closed shop they still had material left over for one more Elevators release, and this became the excellent "Original Sounds" LP, bootlegged in England as "Demos Everywhere".
 
...you will notice that GONE vol 2 includes not just one but two (2) recent productions from Erik L:s creative garage workshop. :lol: I think it's high time to ask for royalties!
 
Yep, it seems that the guy picked up a couple of actual 45s for GONE 2, perhaps to make it seem a little more credible. Since he wasn't a serious garage fan he figured he could simply buy the cheapest 45s he could find that were listed as "garage". Hence you get Katz Kradle and the Countdowns, both of which could be had for $10 or less from a dealer such as Metro Music. I got my copy of the Countdowns 45 for *free* from Metro to make up for some minor screw-up, so seeing it turn up on Gone vol 2 did not impress. :)
 
The artwork of the Gone comps always reminded me of Phil Slee's garphic designs he did for his Bam Caruso releases.

I presumed P. St John Nettleton mentioned on the back of the sleeve was a made up name for Phil Slee.
 
sylvain said:
the only thing that would be missing on my shelves, may their existence get prooved, are the LP comps TEXAS P.P vol.1 and vol.2

I was informed of their existence by a reknowned 60s collector a few years back...

Texas P.P vol.1 and 2 seem to have been released around 1987, but proposed as test pressings and on auction only thru Hot Wax in Germany. The track listing of both volumes (that I don't know) was very similar but not identical to Flashbacks. Hot Wax was /is a German auction house for records; it seems they're still around from what I was told, but I'm unable to find their contact.

The strange thing is that after years of research in the comp world, I've never came across any infos or proof that those comps may actually exist.... whereas I've found some signs of life for many other comps that have been issued at a single copy only. This puzzles me a bit, I now seriously doubt if those comps were actually ever released after they were offered on auction.

Any infos about them or any Hot Wax contact would be more than welcome !
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ps: that said, the nice Acid Dreams vol.1 test pressing recently displayed on the board is also now something else missing :)
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Wow, I'm impressed (and envious).
Does this mean you managed to track down a copy of this one as well?

http://www.popsike.com/ALL-ABOARD-THE-ACID-MACHINE-Psych-Promo-Only-Acid-Psych/160321443390.html
 
Bored? No way!
I hope the Acid Machine comp will get a proper release soon. I know there were plans to release all those 'lost' Incredible Sound Show Stories volumes, but it's been 2 years since the last (and first) one, so I don't know...
 
pfft said:
Bored? No way!
I hope the Acid Machine comp will get a proper release soon. I know there were plans to release all those 'lost' Incredible Sound Show Stories volumes, but it's been 2 years since the last (and first) one, so I don't know...
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Don't think any more of the so called "lost" volumes will be coming out on vinyl, Bard. The CD box set from last year is to be thie final word on those, from what I understand.

Unless, of course, the notorious Mr. Plummer decides to do the honors himself!
 
Thanks for the DTF test pressing pics, Syl - I'd really love to hear that U.K. acetate comp one day.
I haven't listened to I.S.S.S #8 in ages - I need to dig that one out again...

Scott, I assume the box set you mention is the Electric Sound Show 5CD set? It's a great box, but none of the tracks on All Aboard The Acid Machine are included there, so I hope Sylvain is correct when he says there's still a chance...
 
pfft said:
Scott, I assume the box set you mention is the Electric Sound Show 5CD set? It's a great box, but none of the tracks on All Aboard The Acid Machine are included there, so I hope Sylvain is correct when he says there's still a chance...
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That would indeed be the box set I was referring to, Bard.

I'd love to see All Aboard The Acid Machine get an actual release myself. Who says owning more comps is a bad thing?
 
soundog III said:
BTW Flashback #1 & 2 were re-booted by JD. US origin, natch.

Wotta surprise...:rolleyes:
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Scott, when were these done? I recall scoring a copy of #1 at a record show in Boston in the Spring of '87. Non-numbered version, of course.

Concerning Gone, Vols. 1 and 2, I had these about 25 years ago and should add that both sounded like complete shit; some of the tracks sounded as if they were slightly sped up. Neither of them lasted in my collection very long.
 
bosshoss said:
The Acid Dreams story is a classic. The story is as psychedelic as the record. My head was spinning at 33 1/3 rpm.
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Yes. I've followed Sylvain's endless research for several years now and it really is a classic story from the vinyl underground. At one point I was so annoyed by the lack of definite answers that I urged Sylvain to give it up and maybe look into some other comp... thankfully I was wrong, because a lot of info surfaced shortly after that.

Although the exact, precise story behind Acid Dreams will probably never be known, I am satisfied with what has been put together by Sylvain. I don't think Malcolm is necessarily bullshitting, I think he may not remember clearly as it was long ago and he's been involved with a LOT of reissue projects.

I've always been fairly certain that the 1980 release date was correct. The 1980 info was going around already in the 1980s, shortly after the fact. I think Claus may have initiated the project a little earlier, like '79, but the true distribution via Funhouse is almost certainly from 1980. Some of the later bootlegs may have come from the Funhouse nexus too.

I have the "Return" pressing from the late '80s, fortunately my pressing is better than most and doesn't sound too bad. I probably ought to get a red or marble vinyl original some day, as this really is one of my favorite comps.

Now the Gathering Of The Tribes story would be a blast to hear. We listened to that series more than almost any other when things were getting less garage and more zonked up here, 1986,87,88...

// Patrick

PS it may have been mentioned, but Reinhardt Bugl of TUT is definitely behind Sklash/All Cops In Delirium/Good Roots, there is an anagram of his last name in the Good Roots credits ("GULB" or so), which is a typical bootlegger signature. Funny that it was intended to be called "Sklash" (or more likely "Splash"), but became known as Good Roots for ever... you can decipher "Sklash" on the sleeve with some effort.
 
Great job, Sylvain! You should definitely put out a '60s comp scene zine one day!
Any more info on the 3LP AD set? Do you know who's behind it and how many copies were made (or does it say in the liners? - I can't remember right now...)
I couldn't believe it when I found a mint copy on ebay last year for £9.99 (BIN).

And what about Acid Dreams Testament - have you heard that one? Is the sound quality OK? I noticed that they've managed to cram 28 songs onto one LP on the new vinyl edition. Hmmm....

That cheesy horse AD edition is hilarious by the way. It just looks so wrong!
 
Turds On A Bumride is a pretty "shitty" series, as the name suggests. I think it's Italian. It was one of those comps series that made me feel like the days of Chosen Few and New England Teen Scene were sadly over.

Regarding T.U.T, Reinhardt Bugl passed away some years back (he's pictured in one of the Pokora books for those curious) so we won't get that confirmed, but the hidden anagram reference to "GULB" in the production credits seemed to me to settle the issue.

Back From The Grave vol 2 is the one that Tim W expressed regrets about later on, which makes listening to it fun. What exactly is it that isn't up to Grave standards? Because it's still a damn good comp...
 
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