Sig-Heils - WTF!?

Gonn used to play in front of a large Nazi flag, from what I remember from the Voxx liners... just to piss off the generation of their parents, ex-GIs back from France 20 years before ! The Sig-Heils probably choose their name for the same reasons ... they got balls, admit it ! Any other nazi references in the original 60s US garagedom ?
 
Gonn used to play in front of a large Nazi flag, from what I remember from the Voxx liners... just to piss off the generation of their parents, ex-GIs back from France 20 years before ! The Sig-Heils probably choose their name for the same reasons ... they got balls, admit it ! Any other nazi references in the original 60s US garagedom ?

Couple of groups called The Fourth Reich/Fourth Ryke.
 
Gonn used to play in front of a large Nazi flag, from what I remember from the Voxx liners... just to piss off the generation of their parents, ex-GIs back from France 20 years before ! The Sig-Heils probably choose their name for the same reasons ... they got balls, admit it ! Any other nazi references in the original 60s US garagedom ?

I seem to remember Craig telling me they only did it once.
In the Eric & the Norsemen super 8 movies, there's a moment where you see one of them coming out of a room with a nazi flag on the wall (though it may well not be connected to the band at all as there's no way to figure out what this room is).
 
Interesting to say the least... recent thoughts of mine, conclude that by default, what with segregations, some of the kids we love from these bands, probably unintentionally had right wing views, which were instilled in them by their parents.... it's just what happens I guess.

I'm sure of it, most of the kids from these bands, probably never hung out with black kids and vice versa... it was a strange world in 65-66.
 
I asked Craig about the Nazi flag incident, and he was embarrassed to talk about it. He said they were just kids not really knowing what it was all about. I think that's mainly what it was: just kids fooling around.
When I was 17 I wore an Iron Cross and got some bad reactions. Interestingly not from left wing people but from right wing people, who claimed that I was being disrespectful towards the soldiers who earned those medals...

By the way, I always wondered if "Kreeg" was in that same vein. "Krieg" means "war" in German, "blitzkrieg" etc., and "kreeg" sounds pretty much the same when written like that.
 
Listen carefully to "Mony Mony" by Tommy James & The Shondells. Does he, or does he not say, "Heil Hitler" After the first verse? I know the label owner was a Jewish gangster. Could it be a spiteful dig?
 
The New Fourth Reich, from http://www.ripitupri.blogspot.com/search/label/New Fourth Reich*

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Cool songs. Can anybody snag mp3s from divshare?
 
some of the kids we love from these bands, probably unintentionally had right wing views, which were instilled in them by their parents....
I'm sure many kids' dads had brought back Nazi memorabilia from the war - war booty is what it is. I remember a friend of mine's house had a captured Japanese rising sun flag with Japanese writing about the unit and names of some of the soldiers.

Likely the parents were anti-fascist, even if there were still very conservative.
 
I've been recently donning an Iron Cross too.... been just about getting funny looks from everyone.
Paul, you must be the only person in the whole world to do that right now. I mean for the right reasons.
I was actually thinking of wearing it on stage. I still have it. It IS a medal. For the wild battles I fought when I was young. But...
I can't really say why but nowadays it's even weirder than it was then. 20 years ago it was a weird statement. Now it's not even a statement, it's just weird. And maybe I don't feel like separating myself from society the I way I wanted to when I was young. You know, wanting to have nothing to do with about anybody from my parents to my schoolmates to every face on the street.
Or is it still the pinnacle of hardcore 60s punk style?
 
If you are sick of seeing subvertiveness being fully imbeded into the capitalistic cash-flow, you automatically land at something like the iron cross or a swastika. it's been often said, punks in the 70s wore swastikas just to shock the older generation, but I'd guess somebody as smart and schooled as Malcolm McLaren had realised that it is about the only symbol that is impossible to capitalise on (outside of a certain political target group).