Teenbeat Mayhem launch date......

Just too bad that one more member that could have rated it by one more point you would have rated it a 2. The reader does not know how each was computed. Weather it's a 1.0 or 1.999.
 
Sorry, but not is this case as the lowest rating is a 1 which it was given in the book.

Here's another one i disagree...The Basement Wall ''Never Existed" compared to the Stained Glass cut to me is way off. A 9 for Basement Wall and 2 for the latter to my ears. Both were given a 5.
 
Lee de Parade said:
After just checking the rates on the comps (see thread Shiver Me TBMbers) I could start to predict what rating the songs would be given.
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This is the first step towards making the book work in one's favor. MTM pulled together a voting cabinet that was configured a certain way, and the total sum of the people in it represented an abstract consensus opinion. It's like a beast with 34 ears but only one mouth. The reader's assignment is to understand the nature of this beast, what it likes and what it doesn't, and in a while the beast's verdicts will show a consistent, stringent behavior. It can be observed already by now that the TBM BEAST likes really classic garage with fuzz and a strong legend factor. It is less smitten with Rubber Soul jingle jangle, and it growls and snarls when hearing things like "Song On A May Morning" by Canterbury Fair. Fair enough. This is a classic garage beast. It probably should be too.

If 4 old skool 3-chord garage members had been replaced by 4 Chris Hillman worshippers, the TBM BEAST would have metamorphosed into a different monster, and then another set of 45s would have received "too low" or "wrong" ratings. Et cetera ad infinitum.

You will learn to trust the TBM BEAST to agree with you in some areas, but not in others. The point is that there can never, never be a perfect BEAST for everyone. It is logically impossible.

Diplomacy aside, I think people do well in objecting to specific ratings, it's good food for discussion and may cause some re-thinking here and there. Remember how Tom Tourville got flamed for knocking "Beer Bust Blues"? In his next edition he acknowledged that a lot of people seemed to love it, even if he didn't.
 
Just read your * on the bonus points for the 10 ratings. How nice of you to create this rule from having nothing rated a ''10'' by your mathematical standards.
 
Too late now, but I would have done some things different. I'm referring to the book already out and not the next one.
 
vinyl01 said:
Just too bad that one more member that could have rated it by one more point you would have rated it a 2. The reader does not know how each was computed. Weather it's a 1.0 or 1.999.
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You can't be serious???:confused:
 
vinyl01 said:
If making a 1.9 to a 1 is not rounding down I don't know what is. So, on all the rating of ''10'' every member gave it a ''10''?

I can deal no problem...just trying to sort this out.

I've been around record collecting long enough to know that there is bias.
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dude!!!???:%:
 
vinyl01 said:
Here's another one i disagree...The Basement Wall ''Never Existed" compared to the Stained Glass cut to me is way off. A 9 for Basement Wall and 2 for the latter to my ears. Both were given a 5.
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These are the examples you chose to come forth with when finding the consensus voting system troublesome? Basement Wall, nice pop garage with a slick´ish production, My buddy sin, the strongest contender to Stained Glass´top song (the other being A scene In Between, wrongfully omitted from the listings/voting in my opinion)

That is a pretty small universe apart when first given the opportunity of the doubt

Pretty near their actual "worth" in a TBM rating world me thinks.
 
Mr.Segment said:
These are the examples you chose to come forth with when finding the consensus voting system troublesome? Basement Wall, nice pop garage with a slick´ish production, My buddy sin, the strongest contender to Stained Glass´top song (the other being A scene In Between, wrongfully omitted from the listings/voting in my opinion)

That is a pretty small universe apart when first given the opportunity of the doubt

Pretty near their actual "worth" in a TBM rating world me thinks.
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It mostly comes down to personal preference. "My Buddy Sin" isn't a personal favorite. I had a copy and it wound up on my discard pile. On the other hand, I like "We Got A Long Way To Go" quite a bit and would agree with its 5 rating.

I get that the consensus doesn't have to agree with me though. There are a lot of things that rate a 4, for example, that do almost nothing for me. There's one 45 by The Playboys of Edinburgh where both sides rated a 4 and I don't really like either song.
 
Thanks Troggy, That's all I'm really saying too. What got me going was when Bosshoss said he wanted to buy some of the ones rated a 3 seemed odd. I would think most collectors would want the 8,9, and 10s and not 3s. Maybe he has all the top rated one I don't know. There are a bunch of others that I mostly agree with that I knew like the Adventurers, Bards on cap., chocolate watch band, bold. There are more, but that just a few and there are more that my tastes differ on also. The Alan Burn ''tiny tagalong'' was a 2 that I like,but I understand why it was rated like that as it's more of a teen record than a garage sound. I just happen to like that one.
 
Frantic said:
You can't be serious???:confused:
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Yes, very serious! I think he took the math thing way too far. This a rock and roll/Garage book and not a math book. I don't think anyone would have complained if there was rounding up or down in the ratings. If it was my book I would have found a way to put the whole rating in or at least to the tenth which would only have meant an extra space for a decimal point and a digit. I can not see why that would not fit. It might have meant more work to do that if was not set up that way. I would have had everything on a computer data base like I do now which I started back in 1995. This would have eliminated the late additions and made it easier to make corrections.
 
vinyl01 said:
Yes, very serious! I think he took the math thing way too far. This a rock and roll/Garage book and not a math book. I don't think anyone would have complained if there was rounding up or down in the ratings. If it was my book I would have found a way to put the whole rating in or at least to the tenth which would only have meant an extra space for a decimal point and a digit. I can not see why that would not fit. It might have meant more work to do that if was not set up that way. I would have had everything on a computer data base like I do now which I started back in 1995. This would have eliminated the late additions and made it easier to made corrections.
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Wrong.
You do not know what you are talking about.
 
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