Worst Master Recording

Another one that springs to mind is "Hey Jo" by the Warlocks on Washington Square, from Mr. Morris, Michigan, near Flint. A sub-label of the mighty Prophonics organization. Sounds like it was recorded with one mic hanging above the band.
 
One more from Michigan, the Minutemen's crude classic "Another Day With Me" sounds like the mic was put on the floor in front of the bass drum, for a super primitive 'mix', though at least it isn't as muffled as "Green Fuz".
 
bosshoss said:
Another shocker is Head And The Hares "One Against The World".
And The Shandels "No Way Out" on Carldell. Both horrible pressings.
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Mark, I have the Shandels on Carldell, i like it a'lot but my copy is surely defective from a technical standpoint. It definitely sounds fairly hissy plus my copy is slightly warped sounding, but doesn't look warped; is this a pressing or mastering defect? .....gotta say folks, this is one of the coolest threads to come along here in awhile, low fideility is one of the main things that gives this music such character (ditto for vintage pre-
War Americana and 'outsider' pop/rock/experimental stuff from the 80's/90's) An annihilated recording sounds especially wonderful when played in the vintage garage or psych styles, great to hear about some especially "deficient" classics in the genre(s) here that i've been unfamiliar with.
 
The Raven said:
Mark, I have the Shandels on Carldell, i like it a'lot but my copy is surely defective from a technical standpoint. It definitely sounds fairly hissy plus my copy is slightly warped sounding, but doesn't look warped; is this a pressing or mastering defect?
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Mine have none of the defects you mention. But a fairly low-fi recording indeed.
 
So - there actually is no better sounding version of Out Of My Hands? I only have it on ESD's Pebbles CD.. boohoo.. :(
 
EXPO67 said:
I'm not sure if Danny & the Counts 'You Need Love'/'Ode To The Wind' is a bad pressing or if I've just got a bad copy. I've heard others complain about this disc in the past, probably on old Forum.
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Danny and the counts was just a bad recording that got sent as is to the record press. my copy sounds the same. The Celtics on same label sounds a bit muffled too and very flat. On the other hand, I have soul released on Coronado too and it sounds better, louder and clearer.

IMO if Danny and the Counts had been recorded better, You Need love would have been a a much more killer than it already is.
 
I don't think that many or any at all from regional small labels had any mastering done. Mastering was a new concept in the 60's i've read there were three main mastering labs in the USA. There was what they called "dubbing engineer" with the sole purpose to transfer tape to disc exactly as the producer or engineer wanted.
IMO it all depended on the recording engineer and the equipment they used (mics, consoles etc...)

http://johnvestman.com/the_60s.htm
 
reyes said:
I don't think that many or any at all from regional small labels had any mastering done. Mastering was a new concept in the 60's i've read there were three main mastering labs in the USA. There was what they called "dubbing engineer" with the sole purpose to transfer tape to disc exactly as the producer or engineer wanted.
IMO it all depended on the recording engineer and the equipment they used (mics, consoles etc...)

http://johnvestman.com/the_60s.htm
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This is not really accurate, there were a lot of people/operations that did mastering on a local level. The number decreased into the 1970s and 80s, not increased. Custom pressing operation like Rite would accept tapes or acetates (the acetate being the master disk from which the metal plates were made). I think what you are referring to is making of the metal stamper plates. EVen at that there were many more than three companies. That was a specialized operation. Every record back then started with an acetate. To me, cutting of the acetate is the mastering. The plating and stamper production is mostly process. The large amount of acetates with various company names attests to the number of different acetate cutting/mastering operations available.
 
Lee de Parade said:
+1, Buckeye. Reyes! We demand an explanation!
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ok hahaha. I don't dislike the record in fact is one of my all time favorites, and all time greatest in the genre. But from a VERY technical point of view (at least mine) it is a raw two track live recording.
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I wish i seen them live in the 60's.
 
reyes said:
ok hahaha. I don't dislike the record in fact is one of my all time favorites, and all time greatest in the genre. But from a VERY technical point of view (at least mine) it is a raw two track live recording.
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I wish i seen them live in the 60's.
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Sorry...I find it completely overrated.
 
the way i see it is that the recording of the song is a technical aspect that depends on how good is the engineer or person in charge of the studio. and any band can write a good song and can be a killer no matter how it was recorded. that's what i love about 60's rocknroll.
 
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