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Mr.Segment
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Wow, cool design. Never seen that one before. Great stuff mrVinyl!
vinyl01
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Thanks mr segment. I also have the Picture Sleeve, but this thread is for company sleeves.
diggingtheslowness
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vinyl01, i have a copy of the Fabulous Shantels to trade/sell, not a mint copy but also not an easy record to find.
paul messis
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I've never seen a Loma sleeve in my life either.
paul messis
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I got a lovely Ascot sleeve in the post today... I dig the colour.
paul messis
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These are two sleeves I have.
the black and white one, doesn't have a brand name, but I was wondering if any companies, distribution etc may have used a stock looking sleeve like this, it's clearly 60s and I wish I could house it somewhere.
The second is a sleeve is an IRDA sleeve, always liked the look of it, does anyone know any 'garage' groups who may have recorded on the label... so I can buy something for it, even a sunshine pop record will be suffice, or a killer soul??? who knows??
the black and white one, doesn't have a brand name, but I was wondering if any companies, distribution etc may have used a stock looking sleeve like this, it's clearly 60s and I wish I could house it somewhere.
The second is a sleeve is an IRDA sleeve, always liked the look of it, does anyone know any 'garage' groups who may have recorded on the label... so I can buy something for it, even a sunshine pop record will be suffice, or a killer soul??? who knows??
paul messis
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IDK, but it sure looks South American to me. Somebody's design department was infatuated with UNI.
Frantic
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As it says on the sleeve...IRDA was a record distributor not a label (at least not that I know of) A similar sleeve would be a CIRCA sleeve. Usually just a obscure label came with them and was distributed by them. I do know that a lot of the 45s with Circa sleeves also had a small Circa stamp on the label.
paul messis
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Ok...
My Ascot sleeved Mad Hatters 45.
Plus 3 45s, which have labels screaming out to needing sleeves... I would think The Improper Bostonians 'Minuteman' label would have a sleeve surely.... the other two, look very professional label-wise too... I just have no idea??
I need one of you hard-core pros to confirm.
My Ascot sleeved Mad Hatters 45.
Plus 3 45s, which have labels screaming out to needing sleeves... I would think The Improper Bostonians 'Minuteman' label would have a sleeve surely.... the other two, look very professional label-wise too... I just have no idea??
I need one of you hard-core pros to confirm.
paul messis
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Yeah anyone know any 'garage' labels distributed by IRDA??
I'm after a Circa sleeve for my Rogues 45, anyone got one available??
I'm reasonably certain you could put a green ink Cuca sleeve on that Golden Voice 45. I'm sure MTM will correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think it's a subsidiary.
paul messis
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that'd be so kick ass if it is!!!
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I started collecting in the mid '90s, when I bought a collection of around 700 garage 45s from Jules Normington, who used to own Phantom Records here in Sydney. His collection/store stock had been picked over by other collectors long before I purchased the remnants, and there wasn't much left. The most amazing thing as far as I was concerned, was a copy of the Chessmen "I Need You There" on Bismark. It goes to show that it must have been quite common at the time, if all the other collecting guys from around the world didn't want it.
At the time, I actually thought that the collection was incredible. But it was basically a collection of things like Knickerbockers, Standells, Seeds and that kind of stuff. And a lot of the records were promos, not so many stock copies. I also started using the internet to scour for other small, reasonably priced collections to add to my stash. But it wasn't until I hooked up with a couple of avid and very knowledgeable collectors here, that I realised that there was another level of stuff out there. Via these friends, I was introduced to some of the heaviest US collectors operating in the 1990s. They started to offer me top flight items they had to trade, and in some cases, from their own collections. Stuff like the Chob on Lavette, the Barracudas on Zundak. Stuff that cost as much for one record, as I was spending previously on 100 records. But I found the kick was 100 times greater as well...
For the next 10 years I concentrated on the absolute hard core of '60s garage collecting. I was not particularly interested in replacing my promo Music Machine 45 with a stock copy, in this supercharged world of high end collecting. My thinking was that I could get those common records later, but if I missed out on The Keggs or the Four More, there would probably never be another chance.
I have obtained quite a few stock copies over the last 10 years, but I've still got a long way to go compared to Moptopmike, or Barry Wickham, who both have fabulous collections of stock label 45s (so I've been told). But, I found that I didn't want to let the promo copy go, when I got the stock one. I became one of those retentive collectors who has to have both, haha. So, don't stand in that queue for too long Greg!
A point to make is that not all 45s were ever released as stock labels. For example the Tropics on Laurie, and the Rooks on Mercury shown above, only ever came as promos. And the other point is, sometimes the promo actually looks better with the sleeve. And the last point - in theory as Patrick the Lama has pointed out, the promos were often pressed first, and therefore theoretically have superior sound quality.
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great story Mark.... I totally feel cheated, I was born 15 years too late.... I wish I had a better paying job too, I can imagine the fear mixed with joy vibes when you suddenly win a record for $1500, I almost shit myself when I lost out on Tonto and The Renagades for $360 the other week, both a feeling of relief that I still have the cash, but the sadness and despair at losing out on a killer record.
I pretty much only spend my cash on 45s now... even the LP format has taken a backseat now.
I pretty much only spend my cash on 45s now... even the LP format has taken a backseat now.
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The top one is a sleeve from the mid 1970s.
