R.I.P. Ray Manzarek dead at 74

[buckeyebeat]

I was really into the Doors as a teenager, but lost interest over the years. I still think the first two LPs are (mostly) great and agree with Mr. Eargasm. I'm also OK with LA Woman but for different reasons. By now Doors (or Morrsion) bashing is as tired and played out as their cult of worship.

 

[axel]

I guess you either love them or hate them. I used to love them, then hate them and then love them again.
At any rate, they were an exceptional band with a highly distinct sound. And all of the members contributed to that sound, not only Morrison and Manzarek, but Densmore and Krieger as well. Robbie Krieger was probably one of the most visionary guitarists of the 60s. He was doing very odd things that make perfect sense. Ray Manzarek, of course, was keeping it all together. Without him the Doors would have fallen apart, musically I mean.
He died not far from here, in a town called Rosenheim. RIP

 

[Frantic]

I used to love them, then hate them and then love them again.

I can honestly say that I've never loved, then hated, then loved a band before. And never will.

 

[axel]

I can honestly say that I've never loved, then hated, then loved a band before. And never will.

When I got into 60s garage sounds I started despising some of the "big shot" bands. Later I reevaluated them (or some of them).

 

[Frantic]

When I got into 60s garage sounds I started despising some of the "big shot" bands. Later I reevaluated them (or some of them).

I can dig that but how do you love then hate then love again?

 

[axel]

I can dig that but how do you love then hate then love again?

As described: 1. love 2. despise 3. reevaluate and begin to love again

 

[Dave Baldwin]

I can dig that but how do you love then hate then love again?

I loved The Beatles in 1964 When I first heard "She Loves You" and "I Saw Her Standing There"
Then I hated them in 1965 when they put out that formulaic sonic turd "Eight Days A Week"
But then I loved them again soon thereafter when I first heard "Rubber Soul"

 

[greenfuzz]

Then I hated them in 1965 when they put out that formulaic sonic turd "Eight Days A Week"

How can you not like 'Eight Days A Week'?

 

[Dave Baldwin]

How can you not like 'Eight Days A Week'?

It was the first Beatles record my little sister bought, so I knew that they'd really
dumbed-down the formula. The intro is cool, but it soon degenerates into a boring
shuffle that just plods along sluggishly, waiting for those bloody hand claps. Thank
goodness I had The Stones and The Yardbirds to keep my interest up until The
Beatles got back into my good graces later on in 1965. I always thought that "I'm
Free" by The Rolling Stones was a bit of a send-up, and superior in every way.

 

[axel]

Although I don't think that "Eight Days A Week" is one of their weakest moments, it's true that by the time of "Beatles For Sale" (the early US album releases don't make much sense to me) they were running out of ideas and had to draw on their early live material. But this is what should be considered:

10/07/64 LP Parlophone PCS 3058 A Hard Day's Night
4/12/64 LP Parlophone PCS 3062 Beatles For Sale
6/08/65 LP Parlophone PCS 3071 Help !
3/12/65 LP Parlophone PCS 3075 Rubber Soul

That's four (!) albums in two years, two of them outstanding (A Hard Day's Night & Rubber Soul), one that is worth the title song alone, plus "I Feel Fine" (45 only), "Day Tripper" (45 only), "Ticket To Ride" and b-sides like "I'm Down". PLUS two movies...
Those guys were ****ing workaholics!

P.S.: By the way, I just realized that you can click on the album titles above and get the WHOLE load of info on these releases.

 

[M.T. Wallet]

it's true that by the time of "Beatles For Sale" they were running out of ideas

No Reply/I'm A Loser/Spoil the Party/What You're Doing... that's great ideas to me...

 

[EXPO67]

WTF???
the Ray Manzarek tribute thread has somehow turned into an 'I love The Beatles' thread...

 

[axel]

WTF???
the Ray Manzarek tribute thread has somehow turned into an 'I love The Beatles' thread...

Well first it was just about how mixed feelings can be towards extremely famous and hyped groups, even if they're good...
But if you really care why don't you turn it into an "I love The Doors" thread? What do you love about them? What's your favorite song? What's your favorite story about them? Come on, step right up! What's the use of complaining?!

 

[EXPO67]

Not complaining, just stating a fact.....plus I talk my drivel on Facebook which a few on G45 can vouch for...

 

[MopTopMike]

I've always dug "Not To Touch The Earth" and the over-played, but killer nonetheless huge summertime, 1968 hit, "Hello, I Love You". The early 1966 version is pretty boss!

 

[Rick]

Well first it was just about how mixed feelings can be towards extremely famous and hyped groups, even if they're good...
But if you really care why don't you turn it into an "I love The Doors" thread? What do you love about them? What's your favorite song? What's your favorite story about them? Come on, step right up! What's the use of complaining?!

I saw the Doors live, along with The Who, and a band called Kangaroo in 1969. Forest Hills, NY I believe. Morrison was so stoned, incoherent, and barely able to walk. Or was that me?

 

[axel]

Not complaining, just stating a fact.....plus I talk my drivel on Facebook which a few on G45 can vouch for...

Okay, I'll read your "drivel" on facebook. What's your name there? EXPO67?

 

[axel]

I've always dug "Not To Touch The Earth" and the over-played, but killer nonetheless huge summertime, 1968 hit, "Hello, I Love You". The early 1966 version is pretty boss!

It's a nice tune, but a rather blatant rip of "All Day And All Of The Night".

 

[massb]

It's a nice tune, but a rather blatant rip of "All Day And All Of The Night".

To my ears the early version sounds like the Seeds

 

[axel]

I haven't heard this before. I wanted to ask Mike where to find that early version. So thanks, Massimo.
You're right it sounds a bit like the Seeds. Still, the chorus melody is very close to the riff of All Day And All Of The Night. But actually, it doesn't sound as blatant as in the later version. They were probably not aware of the resemblance at all. Nice harmonica, too.