Retro now sounds

[beccabear67]

Anybody have any recommendations in the way of new recordings that have that '60s low-fi edge? I think I've managed to find everything by The Kaisers and have moved on to The Neat Beats and dabbled with The In Steps, plus I really dig the stuff by Kim Lenz and her Jaguars! I'm pretty sure all these people are/were into vintage recording equipment and techniques, but is anything happening now?

 

[Mr.Segment]

I was surprised how authentic a few of the Paul Messis 45s sounded when a friend played them out at a warm up for a show recently.

 

[tom kirby]

Anybody have any recommendations in the way of new recordings that have that '60s low-fi edge? I think I've managed to find everything by The Kaisers and have moved on to The Neat Beats and dabbled with The In Steps, plus I really dig the stuff by Kim Lenz and her Jaguars! I'm pretty sure all these people are/were into vintage recording equipment and techniques, but is anything happening now?

Becca, PM me your home email address. I have a recording I would like to share with you. In fact, I would like to share it with all of you, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to post music on here. I suppose if anyone on here wants to here the song my current partner, Jim Hall, and I recorded about 3 weeks ago now, just PM me your email address. We go by the name "The Trails End".

 

[tom kirby]

Becca, you can see in my avatar that we use minimal equipment. The snare is missing from this pic because we just put this up for the picture. Plus, he uses a Fender Acoustic Pro amp. not pictured.

 

[beccabear67]

Hey Tom, Erik shared the 'They Call The Wind Mariah' track with me, I think it's excellent! If there's more I'd love to check it out. We're going to get my Dad into the studio in September to do a couple tracks along those lines, he used to sing and play guitar in '60s cover bands doing everything from Slim Whitman to Creedence.

I don't know how to post music here either but here is an attempt to post a YouTube video of Erik's from (gasp) twenty years ago now... has a great garagey sound.

 

[beccabear67]

I was surprised how authentic a few of the Paul Messis 45s sounded when a friend played them out at a warm up for a show recently.

Definitely checking him out, thanks!

 

[tom kirby]

Thanks Becca. And, there will be more. I didn't know Erik had shared the recording with anyone. It's OK, I just didn't know. Anyway, is our recording what you're asking for in your post? Something old done new?

 

[beccabear67]

I like your recording better than the Travis & Bob version, and yes it 's along the lines of what I was asking about. I just cannot stand most of the new stuff that gets run through computers and over-produced; all effect and little substance. What Erik did covering Little Boy Blue on his new CD was interesting even though I like the other Renegades songs a bit more, but it's hard to compete with an original from back in the day!

 

[Lutz_Soundflat]

If you dig The Kaisers & The Neatbeats, you should also look out for Peter Berry & The Shake Set! Great norwegian beat band...!! They have several 45s...plus 2 LPs out on Teen Sound and Sounflat Records!

 

[tom kirby]

I like your recording better than the Travis & Bob version, and yes it 's along the lines of what I was asking about. I just cannot stand most of the new stuff that gets run through computers and over-produced; all effect and little substance. What Erik did covering Little Boy Blue on his new CD was interesting even though I like the other Renegades songs a bit more, but it's hard to compete with an original from back in the day!

becca, the Erik I know played Little Boy Blue from his heart, soul and love of the music. The last thing he would want is to be compared to or perceived as competing. He's a musician who couldn't make any music if didn't express himself.

 

[beccabear67]

I sometimes come across differently in writing than what I was thinking and only meant to say I couldn't compare Erik's sound to that of your old records. Or something like that, it seemed to make sense at the time. He did something different with the song which is always better than imitating like Michael Bolton doing Otis Redding and that kind of thing.


I'll have to ask Erik if he would mind me sending you a couple of demos of new songs we've collaborated on. Like your Mariah recording sometimes the sparser demos have something over a bigger production version. Travis & Bob were really talented but on the 1960 record I have they are doing a Smothers Brothers comedy thing around the song.

 

[beccabear67]

If you dig The Kaisers & The Neatbeats, you should also look out for Peter Berry & The Shake Set! Great norwegian beat band...!! They have several 45s...plus 2 LPs out on Teen Sound and Sounflat Records!

Don't know how I overlooked these, they look like they will sound great and at toe rag studios too. Thanks!

 

[Lutz_Soundflat]

Okay..I wasn't correct..here's what PETER BERRY AND HIS SHAKE SET have out so far (at least..that is what I have/had listed in my mailorder:

PETER BERRY & THE SHAKE SET - Berry express 7 Larsen
PETER BERRY & THE SHAKE SET - Berry-go-round CD Jansen Plateproduksjon
PETER BERRY & THE SHAKE SET - Berry-go-round LP Soundflat Records
PETER BERRY & THE SHAKE SET - For goodness shake CD Spinout
PETER BERRY & THE SHAKE SET - For goodness shake! LP Soundflat Records
PETER BERRY & THE SHAKE SET - Memphis tennessee 7 Jansen Plateproduksjon
PETER BERRY & THE SHAKE SET - The more, the Berrier 7 Big Dipper
PETER BERRY & THE SHAKE SET - Wildberry shake! CD Teen Sound
PETER BERRY & THE SHAKE SET - Wildberry shake! LP Teen Sound

another great band in the vein of THE KAISERS are the OTHER GUYS from France:

OTHER GUYS - Beat block club sessions! LP Larsen
OTHER GUYS - Switchblade 7 Butterfly Records

hope you like the list..best.. Lutz

 

[tom kirby]

I sometimes come across differently in writing than what I was thinking and only meant to say I couldn't compare Erik's sound to that of your old records. Or something like that, it seemed to make sense at the time. He did something different with the song which is always better than imitating like Michael Bolton doing Otis Redding and that kind of thing.

I'll have to ask Erik if he would mind me sending you a couple of demos of new songs we've collaborated on. Like your Mariah recording sometimes the sparser demos have something over a bigger production version. Travis & Bob were really talented but on the 1960 record I have they are doing a Smothers Brothers comedy thing around the song.

I know what you mean. Like with our version of Mariah, it's alot different than the movie version. Here is the review we got from Erik.

"Trail's End does a cool uptempo version of the classic show tune from the musical Paint Your Wagon "(They Call the Wind) Mariah" (NOT Maria as some folks tend to spell it). Usually this song is a mid tempo ballad lamenting the loss of female companionship in the wilderness of Life, but Trail's End gives this song more of a folksy shuffle to it and plays it in a Major Key instead of a Minor Key (as it was written). Tom Kirby's use of brushes on the snare drum help accent the rhythm guitar and move the song along. It has a very Coffeehouse Folk appeal to it. The vocalist has good timing and rhythm nonetheless, and his vocal inflection and tonality helps express this song much differently that the waning lament of the original version of this classic show tune. It is pleasing to my ears and enjoyable on repeated plays on my stereo. I hope to hear more from this group soon."

I think we get a pretty good sound for a 2 piece. And, the music we play fits in with the equipment we do use. We both would like to find a bass player who can also sing and we're not opposed to that person being a female. But, it has to be the right person who is totally on the same page with us. An upright bass would be perfect since Erik defined us as Folk Rock.

 

[beccabear67]

An upright bass would be perfect since Erik defined us as Folk Rock.

That reminds me a bit of the first recordings Gordon Lightfoot saw released, it was him and another singer/guitarist accompanied by a guy on a big string bass. They called themselves the Two Tones and played coffee house and dinner club type places. There used to be a few two-guys-with-guitars acts that were really popular around 1958-62, don't know of any one guitar and one drum though so that's unique.

Definitely agree on the "enjoyable on repeated plays".

 

[beccabear67]

hope you like the list..best.. Lutz

I have For Goodness Shake and Wildberry Shake coming, gotta have that beat music fix!

 

[tom kirby]

I'm surprised noone else asked to hear it, Becca, but it's not "Garage" just an old song done new and in a new way.

 

[paul messis]

Definitely checking him out, thanks!

Thanks

 

[beccabear67]

Thanks

'Time Will Tell' is great, love that sound, and the other sides are as good! In an alternate world maybe you, John Moreman and George Usher would be all over AM radio worldwide.

 

[rev.sideburn]

Paul Messis album is just soooo great, title song "The Problem With Me" blew me away the very first time i heard it. Allmost true to Teenage Shutdown-school.

As Lutz mentiones, Peter Berry & The Shakeset. They´re good friends of mine, and are the closest you can get the mighty Kaisers these days. Don´t miss their liveshows, far better than their records actually. Brilliant sounding.

Peder aka "Peter Berry" also have this old/new (longhaired) project going on, called The Apricot. Their debutalbum "A Forest Full of Threes" is well worth checking out. More kind of late 60s, early 70s, well arranged and pollished longhaired popsychedelia. One of my fave Norwegian albums this year, no doubt.

Can´t say how much I miss The Indikation.........