Surprise, surprise - idle chatter about TBM

[MopTopMike]

I think most of the voters gave it a solid 3, would have to check.
sounds average to me - decent but hardly a song to get a riled up about.

I had a 45 on D&C by Deric & The C-Ryders , "Matais A Go Go". It was stolen by a German record collector. Does anyone know about it?

Unfamiliar with that 45. I'm sure there are a few more sides on D&C that have yet to surface...speaking of unknowns, I just scored another Tennalaga label 45 the other day. Let's just say the label's stellar batting average for killer sides released took a nose-dive with this one!

 

[mr. splendid]

Here's the flip (A-side) of Viceroys - Five Steps To Hell. Anyone else think this should score above a 3?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjKlWz0Df_w

Hmm , that sounds pretty pedestrian to me . I think 3 is the right score .

 

[Michael W]

But I wondered, since you only previewed the first 20 seconds of a song unless there was a guitar break worthy of attention and because the listing said sax instead of guitar, if the problem was didn't hear enough. John Swain always listened to the opening and jumped to the break to sample a record. A viable guitar break would always add points.

Most songs we listened to the entire track. Some we might have only got about 80%. I don't know where you got the idea that we were only listening to the first 20 seconds.
I can hear sax in that clip; it's an average '60s pop song, 3 at best.

 

[greenfuzz]

I'd rate it a 5. Not a classic, but I wouldn't necessarily turn it off after consecutive spins.

 

[Frantic]

This record has been known about for at least a year by Alec and other serious Bay Area collectors. Group was probably from the peninsula, the writer is dead. Yep, there is a sax barely audible behind the guitar break. Purple Virus and Pastels are the best things on this label, way better than this!! I'd give it a 4.

 

[Hicksville Hogwash]

Below average to me, the bad sound quality was promising but the actual song is kind of so so. A big 3 from me.

 

[buckeyebeat]

Regarding the posted clip of the Viceroys, the 45 sounds slower and the sound is a lot clearer, the clip sounds like about a 5th generation tape dub. If you hear it from a 45, it's slicker and commercial sounding recording. There absolutely is a sax. I first heard it about 20 or so years ago.

 

[MopTopMike]

Right, George, I think I only had a tape dub from another collector at the time of the voting session, I have since had, and then sold the Viceroys 45, but made a digital transfer of both sides.
Some of my lower quality tape dubs came directly from Greg Shaw, as he was willing to help out. When I told him about the consensus voting project before it kicked off, Greg said "No Way" when I asked if he wanted to be involved.

 

[StuShea]

Hello folks.

Received TBM a month ago and it has rarely left whatever room I happen to be in. It is, as I messaged MTM, a staggering work, among the best music research books I've seen. Thank you to everyone who contributed to making this so great.

The Greg Shaw tribute was, I feel, entirely deserved. For people who learned about 60s teenbeat in the late 70s and early 80s, his comps were essential. Some others may have cornered particular markets in sub-subsets of garage punk, but Shaw's impact was seismic.

A few omitted records that I wondered about:

*Churchill Administration on Cha Cha: too teener?
*United Nations on Cha Cha: too folky?
*Joe Madrid and the Systems Go on Versa: too fratty?
*McGowen Bros. on WB: too studio-y?

BTW, if MTM/the cabinet still need it, I have the Plymouth Rockers' 45 on WB that was unavailable for review.

Also, are all of Angelo's Angels 45s' pre-64? (If so, I'd have to think "New Dog" would at least qualify for the 'Rock & Roll Music' section!)

Finally, were the Creme Soda or Trizo 50 45s considered for 'Behind the Times'?

Thanks...and nice to be a little part of this community.

Stu Shea

 

[StuShea]

Duh. "New Dog" is in the addendum. Sorry.

Also, the Andantes on Chic-a-Go is a definite two-sided winner that could have been included, right?

 

[axel]

Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but this should definitely be included in TBM:

 

[MopTopMike]

It is included.

 

[axel]

I couldn't find it. Gotta get my alphabet straight I guess.

 

[MopTopMike]

Page 89

 

[MopTopMike]

You could also look it up by title in the index, which also tells you where it is located

 

[axel]

 

[troggy]

Went to the record show in St. Louis yesterday. Found two 45's on the Milam label, one each at two different tables. One is the Kokays 45. Don't have the details on the other one in front of me now but I don't think it's in TBM and it's pretty garagey. I'll check on the details this evening.

 

[troggy]

Here's the other record on Milam I got, "Open Your Eyes" by Norton Wilson & the Shades. Sounds a little like garage meets Roy Head.

 

[axel]

Nice! Strong Merseybeat influence there, too.

 

[MopTopMike]

Yep, I already added that 45 to the TBM updated listings, but I did not have a soundclip for voting as yet. Nice to see it on youtube.

The 45 also had a picture sleeve.