New US garage comp

[pfft]

Volume 2 of Turn To Stone out soon:

Product Information
VINYL ONLY – LIMITED PRESSING OF 350 COPIES
Brand new collection of 16 rare, obscure and amazing mid 60s US local garage 45´s, offering a mix of straight ahead boss garage rock, snotty punkers, thrilling teen coolness & magical moody winners.
90% of all tracks for the first time on vinyl, 12 tracks compiled for the first time.
LP is painstakingly remastered and comes with a cool full coloured live cover w/label reprints on the back.
SIDE ONE 1 Bacardis - Don´t Sell Yourself 2 Oceans - She´s Gone 3 Stone Cutters - Fellow Slave 4 Dillons Simple - Way Of Living 5 Young Strangers - She´s Gone 6 Celtics - Jail 7 Mister's Virtue - Summer Night 8 Warlocks - I Love You
SIDE TWO 1 Other Five - You Really Got Me 2 Real List - Pick Up The Marbles 3 Deverons - She Is My Life 4 Those Rogues - Girl 5 Mister's Virtue - Captured 6 Laughing Kind - Empty Heart 7 Voyagers - Can't Save This Heart 8 Mergers - Unworthy American

 

[chas_kit]

I hate that phrase "comped for the first time". It makes it sound like someone discovered something new, but nearly all these songs and the ones on most other recent, bootleg comp LPs have been well-known through forum comps or internet sites for years now.

Is someone gonna tell me the Bacardis and Those Rogues on this LP were taken from original 45s? If so, that would be a nice step up from most comps of the last 5 years. When a comp uses an mp3 as its source, well, that's a joke. Garbage in, garbage out indeed.

I'm not trying to pick on whoever put this out (I don't know and don't care), these are just my personal opinions.

 

[Frantic]

I hate that phrase "comped for the first time". It makes it sound like someone discovered something new, but nearly all these songs and most other recent, bootleg comp LPs have been well-known through forum comps or internet sites for years now.

Is someone gonna tell me the Bacardis and Those Rogues on this LP were taken from original 45s? If so, that would be a nice step up from most comps of the last 5 years. When a comp uses an mp3 as it's source, well, that's a joke. Garbage in, garbage out indeed.

I'm not trying to pick on whoever put this out (I don't know and don't care), these are just my personal opinions.

ditto!!!

 

[MopTopMike]

Right O, Chap!

 

[mr. splendid]

I think it's just plain boring ! A bunch of tracks , haphazardly thrown together , do not make a comp . There should be some kind of theme - regional , label , musically , whatever... Releasing it on vinyl , although it's commendable , is not enough .

 

[buckeyebeat]

Releasing it on vinyl , although it's commendable , is not enough .

yes, it is.....not MY opinion as an old guy, but the deal is that there is a whole, ummmm, "market niche" of people who want stuff - garage, soul, rockabilly - on records (comps or boot 45s). The 'neighborhood bar DJ' for lack of a better term. People who insist on 'spinning vinyl' at their local bar to be a cool DJ. For some, it's just for DJing in their 'mancave' but it has to be on vinyl. The context of original records (or "OVO" to the Northern Soul crowd) is lost on most of this scene, and any amount of trying to convince them otherwise will get a 'shut up old man/record snob' response (personal experience....).

 

[MopTopMike]

And that's why we see the onslaught of bootleg 45s everywhere for $12 each.
I think Joey D is right for DJ'ing in today's world: play digital, bring everything and wipe the floor with the poseur fools. Spinning bootleg 45 or a compilations all night long is no different than DJing with digital soundfiles.

 

[Frantic]

And that's why we see the onslaught of bootleg 45s everywhere for $12 each.
I think Joey D is right for DJ'ing in today's world: play digital, bring everything and wipe the floor with the poseur fools. Spinning bootleg 45 or a compilations all night long is no different than DJing with digital soundfiles.

Exactamundo. Not once in all my years of DJ'ing has anyone come up to me and ask me why I'm not playing records. Not once. But a bunch of times I've had poseurs tell me to stop talking of the mic...My response...FUCK OFF!!! If I can't send out requests or let people know what's playing, I'd rather stay home and hang out with Rosey

 

[axel]

Thanks for posting it anyway.
Those Rogues are amazing. Deverons, Dillons, most of the tracks on the comp are pretty great.

This has been discussed again and again. I think the standpoints are clear. The sad thing is: if there is this "market niche" (best regards from the mancave!), why isn't there anybody doing proper comps form original 45s?

 

[axel]

By the way, this was one of the best comps of the last few years, I think it has never been mentioned here in the forum. I think it's all from originals. The highlight is a wonderful alternate take of Goin Away by the State of Mind which sounds like being taken from a master tape.
"Delaware Garage" on Distortions:

 

[ohiogarage]

I hate that phrase "comped for the first time". It makes it sound like someone discovered something new, but nearly all these songs and most other recent, bootleg comp LPs have been well-known through forum comps or internet sites for years now.

Is someone gonna tell me the Bacardis and Those Rogues on this LP were taken from original 45s? If so, that would be a nice step up from most comps of the last 5 years. When a comp uses an mp3 as it's source, well, that's a joke. Garbage in, garbage out indeed.

I'm not trying to pick on whoever put this out (I don't know and don't care), these are just my personal opinions.

It would have been nice for them to seek permission to release the Oceans track from the publisher... ME

Not that it would make the Publisher or writers rich... A License would have come to $31.85 split between the publisher and the 4 writers... It's The Point. They could have used the Master for the release, it is sitting right here on the self. Anyone know who put it out? Maybe they will give a copy to the writers and the publisher.

 

[MopTopMike]

C'mon, Ohiogarage!
What you are implying requires WORK, a sense of ETHICS and KNOWLEDGE (of how to produce a compilation).

 

[MopTopMike]

I hate that phrase "comped for the first time". It makes it sound like someone discovered something new, but nearly all these songs and most other recent, bootleg comp LPs have been well-known through forum comps or internet sites for years now.

Is someone gonna tell me the Bacardis and Those Rogues on this LP were taken from original 45s? If so, that would be a nice step up from most comps of the last 5 years. When a comp uses an mp3 as it's source, well, that's a joke. Garbage in, garbage out indeed.

I'm not trying to pick on whoever put this out (I don't know and don't care), these are just my personal opinions.

Anyone who puts out compilations from mp3 sources needs to be outed and ridiculed on forums like this one. Unless you are only providing free downloads.

 

[Lee de Parade]

what (at long last) made me give up on comps were the inclusions of so-so songs. they give me a firkin headache. i much prefer a 100% killer comp with haphazardly thrown together songs before a super informed professor-comp with some kind of themes but not enough killer tracks. or even man-slaughter tracks.
comp series like Fuzz Flaykes & Shakes & Sixties Rebellion really bored me. and some others who shall remain unmentioned..

 

[chas_kit]

Fuzz Flaykes & Shakes was licensed and had reliable info about the bands and some photos I'd never seen before. Thematically the records made a lot of sense. It wasn't going for the killer crunchers, it was exposing the lesser-known psych, ballads, b-sides etc. It was a very valuable series when I was trying learn about and hear everything.

 

[Lee de Parade]

I don't know if I really wanted or needed to hear everything. I had faith (HAH!) a long time in the word "Killer". That has now changed forever. As has my opinions of overuse of exclamation marks.
Too bad Teenage Shutdown came too late into the game cause those are really THE best series if you want and need to hear all the GOOD stuff (except for a few duds..)

And the people who I used to know all those years ago - who liked freaky rock'n'roll and crazy ass punk - definitely stopped their garage-safari's because of all the crap-comps made by fundamentalists who totally drained all patience and trust in comps in general. A lot of limp-dick beat was all ya got for your hard earned cash and time spent.

This, I do believe, has brought more damage to the growth of the garage scene than the mp3's and the d-loading generation.

And what the fuck is this snobbery about spinning original 45s? That is elitism on an illuminati-scale. Go scratch a fuckin rash. Puh-LEASE!

 

[Lee de Parade]

And fuck license. If the lazy-ass old rockers of yore haven't done shit in close to 50 years to get their old tunes out then let the (extremely limited numbers of) people interested in it re-release it for free.
The money in it equals zilch. So fuck that. With a fuckstick. And don't fuckin call it in the morning. Let it call you, and when you see who's calling, don't pick up the phone.

 

[wildpaws]

And fuck license. If the lazy-ass old rockers of yore haven't done shit in close to 50 years to get their old tunes out then let the (extremely limited numbers of) people interested in it re-release it for free.
The money in it equals zilch. So fuck that. With a fuckstick. And don't fuckin call it in the morning. Let it call you, and when you see who's calling, don't pick up the phone.

I'm only going to say that your rant in the quoted post is IMHO totally out of place. You have no idea what has or has not happened in these peoples lives and if they even have the knowledge and/or capability to get their old tunes out. As well, I'm not sure how many of us "lazy-ass old rockers of yore" (much less surviving family members of those who have passed on) even had a clue that somebody would be interested in the music we did 40-50 years ago, I certainly didn't until I was searching for old band members on the internet and stumbled on sites like this one. And since finding out that there is interest in old garage bands, I've been happy to provide clips of music, answer questions/interviews, share pictures and memorabilia. But those are just my thoughts, I can't speak for everyone.
Clyde

 

[Lee de Parade]

I am sorta an old lazy-ass of yore myself, with a catalog behind me.
I'm honoured each time I see one of my old albums up for free download on some blog somewhere.
The hunt for licenses gets me very tired, it is old old OLD thinking in an everchanging new world.

 

[Lee de Parade]

And no, it is impossible to keep track of literally tens and tens of thousands of unknown people in US alone that recorded cool rock'n'roll on some DIY label.