The Outsiders' Tom King RIP

axel

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Tom King, leader of the Outsiders, died on the 23rd of April. It was exactly the day of transition from the old forum to the new G45central. That's maybe why it didn't find mention here (actually I saw it at a clip Ohiogarage posted, but maybe it escaped the attention of most of us; thanks for that).
It think the Outsiders were an outstanding band. Great songwriting, fine lead vocals (by Sonny Geraci), lots of drive & powerful melody lines. I've got their three studio albums and I think all of them are great.
"I'm Not Trying To Hurt You" was the first thing I heard of them on Pebbles Vol.9 (actually I bought it on a bootlegged cassette-compilation in Berlin) when I was about 16 and I was immediately attracted to it. I still am.


Rest in peace, Tom.
 
Yeah, I've got all their stuff too, even the live album (and I hate live albums usually), to me they were kind of a U.S. Troggs if that makes any sense. Thanks for passing on the news...
 
I'm just listening through their records. First thing that strikes the ear is that The Outsiders are a genuine blue-eyed soul band. "I'm Not Trying To Hurt You" is actually a little misleading, though I find it highly interesting that towards the end of their career they took a turn to "garage-y" sounds instead of reaching for an ever higher production (which certainly is bound to put off strictly garage-minded folks).
If a comparison to British bands needs to be done, it reminds me more of the Spencer Davis Group. "Keep On Running" is the first song on their first record, which suggests this comparison even more, only that the overall output of The Outsiders is more accomplished, at least to my ears. Or The Action, which is a strange comparison, because they weren't half as popular, much less even, but they are held in high esteem among the mod crowd, for good reason. Again, both groups do a version of "Since I Lost My Baby", a haunting soul ballad, both versions great (just have been given the chills by the Outsiders' version).
But if I'd like to compare them to anything at all, I can't think of anybody else than the Rascals. The Rascals being more on the Atlantic side (and also more "garage-y"), The Outsiders definitely more on the Northern (Soul) side.
So, as a first summary I guess The Outsiders hold more in store for the mod crowd than for the garage fans (altough they have satisfying moments like their version of "Wine, Wine, Wine" or "Haunted By Your Love" on "In the Outsiders"), only that those snobs probably haven't got a clue of what they are missing. I'm sure, if anyone likes The Action, he definitely should dig The Outsiders. So what we have here is a typical example of an artist "falling between two stools".
The second thing that is remarkable are the arrangements. This totally swings off the garage trail, I know, but giving credits here to Tom King it definitely has to be said. The liners don't say much about who's the arranger and where it was recorded, but if indeed it was Tom King himself arranging the stuff, he is highly accomplished. It can hold pace with the big shot arrangers of L.A., and that is quite something for someone who isn't given the slightest credit as an arranger, and not even known as anything else than just a guy of a group. Respect, Mr.King! Respect!

To make a long story short: if you dig blue-eyed soul with a garage-y edge, more on the Northern side, then get The Outsiders #2 in mono. You won't regret it. "Lost In My World", a great remake of "Time Won't Let Me", both great compositions by Tom King himself. Followed by "Since I Lost My Baby" for chill factor and a fantastic version of "Cool Jerk". And then "Oh How It Hurts", another amazing Tom King composition. And then "I Will Love You", a Pet Sounds-influenced haunting soul ballad, just great, great, great.
Or get all of the three records, so you can pick out your favorites.

Get on your scooters and ride with The Outsiders!!!!
 
Thanks for the input, Beccabear. I think I have to get the live album as well.
 
I was fortunate enough to see the Outsiders at the Canfield (OH) Fair in 1968 and remember them putting on a great show on top of a tractor trailor bed! RIP Tom
 
I was fortunate enough to see the Outsiders at the Canfield (OH) Fair in 1968 and remember them putting on a great show on top of a tractor trailor bed! RIP Tom
Wow. That sounds great. I suppose it wasn't long before they broke up.
 
that is quite something for someone who isn't given the slightest credit as an arranger, and not even known as anything else than just a guy of a group
That's wrong, sorry. He is given credits as producer. But I guess not too many people are aware of it. The point being, The Action for instance were produced by George Martin (and went nowhere). Tom King did it all by himself.
 
That's wrong, sorry. He is given credits as producer. But I guess not too many people are aware of it. The point being, The Action for instance were produced by George Martin (and went nowhere). Tom King did it all by himself.

The Action went nowhere because they only had a couple of decent songs.
 
The Outsiders were still going strong in 1970. They had a 45 on Bell, "Changes" which is good pop-beat with a soulish vibe, a la the later Grassroots. The lineup had shifted a bit by that time.
 
Here's an interesting account that might explain why The Outsiders turned to garage sounds later on.
After touring with the likes of Gene Pitney, Len Barry and Bobby Goldsboro, they went on tour with some other groups. Says Sonny Geraci:
"We did a tour after Pitney with the McCoys, ourselves and ? and the Mysterians, the Shadows of Knight and a group from the west coast called the Seeds... (...) There were five rock bands. Was that a crazy tour!" (wikipedia)
 
The Outsiders Happening Live album has an interesting live version of Time Won't Let Me but it's marred by screaming girls, possibly overdubbed or added to but I wasn't around to know how screamed over these guys might have been. They also cover Gloria and Good Lovin' along with more soul hits like Ain't Too Proud To Beg. They seem to have been a decent live band in The Raiders style.
 
While I am not sure about sitting through all three studio efforts (lots of covers on each, if I remember right) a best of CD that focused on the 45s and cherry picked from the better self-penned LP tracks would probably make for an enjoyable collection. Has there been another Outsiders' CD since the one Capitol released as part of its "Capitol Collectors Series" of retrospectives?
 
The Action went nowhere because they only had a couple of decent songs.
I disagree. Read this:
"After the Beatles, the Action were the most impressive band signed to EMI by George Martin during the mid-'60s. That they never managed to chart a single in the space of two years with the label, even as lesser bands sold tens of thousands of records with seemingly no effort, is one of those great ironies of mid-'60s English rock & roll." (Bruce Eder)

Bands like the Spencer Davis Group didn't write much of their material either and had big hit records. One "decent" song could become a hit record as we all know. And the Action had quite a few decent songs.
Reg King, singer of the Action, Tom King's soulbrother, died last October 8th. I'm sure I have the kind permission by Mr.Tom King to give Mr. Reg King the props and let his band play a few chords here as well, for the sake of good ole times:


This should have become a hit record! And things would have looked different for the Action...

...!
 
While I am not sure about sitting through all three studio efforts (lots of covers on each, if I remember right) a best of CD that focused on the 45s and cherry picked from the better self-penned LP tracks would probably make for an enjoyable collection. Has there been another Outsiders' CD since the one Capitol released as part of its "Capitol Collectors Series" of retrospectives?
Lots of great covers and lots of great self-penned tunes. Check out #2. I'm sure you will manage to "sit through" it. If I remember right I bought all three as a lot. Three great records for the price of one! Well, maybe not anymore...
If you like "Time Won't Let Me" it's almost certain that you will dig most of the rest. A group of highly consistent quality, really.
 
While I am not sure about sitting through all three studio efforts (lots of covers on each, if I remember right) a best of CD that focused on the 45s and cherry picked from the better self-penned LP tracks would probably make for an enjoyable collection. Has there been another Outsiders' CD since the one Capitol released as part of its "Capitol Collectors Series" of retrospectives?

I did place a licensing request with EMI to try and put a "best of" The Outsiders collection together but no permission has been granted yet.
 
And then there is this here:

"Sadly, the story of The Action is a Sad Tragedy. Their shoulda-been-a masterpiece, 1967's melancholic, contemplative Rolled Gold (seriously, just impulse-buy this album right now) is the Lost Classic of all Lost Classics. Inexplicably, this record was shelved and scrapped by EMI, apparently for not being psych-y enough, and went unheard until the demos were re-released on CD in 2002. Yes, it's true, this album is not psychedelic in the least, but whatever, psych totally sucks compared to Rolled Gold."

"In the liner notes, Action guitarist Alan King writes, "the songs -- ALL ORIGINALS -- were recorded as 'demos' for a forthcoming album that never came to fruition."

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Rest in peace, Reg.
 
The Action's remakes of soul songs are boring. Period. The only noteworthy tune is "Wasn't It You", by far their best tune. They are underground critical dandies with mediocre (I say limp) "beat" renditions of songs that were much better by the original performers. Spencer Davis group is much better, that's why they had HITS. THAT's a group with soul!